Han Dong-hoon said, "I'm against the president. It's not personal."The conservative divide begins?

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Seo Yong-ju, head of the Political and Social Research Institute, Yoon Hee-seok, senior spokesman for the People's Power

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[Anchor]
Political commentary with a living angle, let's start at the minute. Today, there are two people, Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Welcome. Let's look at the first topic. I'm against the president because it's a way for everyone to live. At an event attended by young people yesterday, CEO Han Dong-hoon said this. Let's listen to it first.

My opposition to the president is not a personal matter, it is everyone's way of life. We live only if I oppose the president. Did you make the route clear?

[Applicant owner]
That's right. So, should I say that representative Han Dong-hoon has been constantly criticized by President Yoon Suk Yeol? Even if they are treated like that, they don't seem to give up until the end. So I think that's what I said to the president that the point should be to distinguish between public and private affairs. So when it comes to Kim Gun-hee's risk, she may be her sister-in-law personally, but don't point out her sister-in-law's wrongdoings, but publicly see her as the biggest stumbling block in state administration right now. If the risk is not resolved, it is difficult for the president, and if the president is difficult, it is difficult for him. I'm talking about this issue because if it's difficult for me, the power of the ruling party, the people, is also difficult. I hope you only object to me strangely and don't see me as a traitorous frame. I think I'm talking about that.

I think it would be very unpleasant for the president to hear it. I can be seen as a person who can't even distinguish construction, but I have four feet. Have you ever compared the Democratic Party of Korea and criticized the Democratic Party of Korea about Chairman Lee Jae-myung's judicial risks? It wasn't democratic, but there are quite a few people who criticize judicial risk. I'm also criticizing it. The Democratic Party of Korea is not so unhealthy because it has opposed a second term and is still the same. I think it's just four feet.

[Anchor]
I couldn't find anyone like that, but Director Seo Yong-joo is next to me. I see. Anyway, I won't stop heading to Yongsan. To the pro-Yoon-gye, I will continue to say this publicly to the party, right? It can be seen as an expression of this will, right?

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how it can be interpreted. First of all, Chairman Han Dong-hoon's remarks were that our party is a very healthy party that can communicate smoothly without sanctuary and openly express such things. I talked about the Democratic Party by way of comparison. The important thing is that we must go through the process of communicating smoothly and gathering opinions together. That's why it looks like a conflict when it pops up, but how does everything always go smoothly? Since such a situation came, he made such a statement publicly as the party leader, so we should understand it like this.

[Anchor]
Yesterday's event. A lot of people might be curious. What do you mean by calling in young people for a reverse interview?

[Yoon Heesuk]
Conversely, it was an event that showed how much the power of the people understood the young people through the process of the party leader asking questions and answering questions.

[Anchor]
He also said that there is no future for the national election if you don't set your mind to young people anymore.

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's right. CEO Han Dong-hoon wrote that. All age groups are important, but basically, young people's discomfort for our party is quite large, so we need to lay the foundation for our party to continue in power by reflecting opinions on them and improving our understanding through communication with them. I think it is an expression of the very desperate will of CEO Han Dong-hoon.

[Anchor]
Anyway, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that representative Han Dong-hoon has been busy taking care of public sentiment recently because both the party's approval rating and the president's approval rating have turned on red lights. First, let's talk about the recent trend of approval ratings. First, the evaluation of the performance of the president's duties. Gallup approval rating. 20 for positivity and 70 for negativity. Let's also look at the party's approval rating. The Democratic Party of Korea has a 30 percent approval rating, and the interesting part is that the president's approval rating has fallen slightly, while the party's approval rating has risen slightly.

I'll look at it by region as well. TK approval rating. We prepared Yoon Suk Yeol's presidential approval rating and the people's power approval rating in one round. And here we see a downward trend, an upward trend, a decoupling phenomenon. Let's go to Busan. In terms of PK approval rating, there is a significant gap between the president's approval rating and the people's support for power. You can see at a glance that the flow is also showing opposite flows. Anyway, President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating is now a red light, but it seems to be different from the recent trend of the party's approval rating.

[Applicant owner]
So the part where CEO Han Dong-hoon, who I've been talking about, uses the underdog strategy is a little effective. In terms of the president's huge power, I think the fact that he has been trampled on by the president without setting up a confrontation within the conservative class has been shown to be a little effective this time.

[Anchor]
Do you think the interview is effective this time?

[Seoyongju]
This is a great interview. When the interview itself is viewed as a picture, most of the people will recognize it. Rather than the message of the process of the contents and remarks in there, the picture itself feels like CEO Han Dong-hoon felt very humiliated and treated. The head of the ruling party asked for some kind of risk in state affairs, but the president opened his arms and kicked him out as if he was pretending, and then called in floor leader Choo Kyung-ho in the evening. It's hard for anyone to understand. As an underdog, Han Dong-hoon is trying to lead change within the party even though he gets sympathy votes from people. I think the effect is a little bit due to the decoupling situation. If you look at the president's approval rating, there is nothing to evaluate. Starting with TK, people in their 70s and older have high negative ratings. In almost a word, I think I can express that the electronic display is on the verge of being turned off.

[Anchor]
In particular, I thought that TK and PK approval ratings, which have traditional conservative supporters, are meaningful, but what factors do you think are the big differences between the president's approval rating and the party's approval rating?

[Yoon Heesuk]
In the end, 46% of the party's approval rating came out in Daegu, which can be seen as the headquarters of the conservative right, and the small 20 percentage points of the president's approval rating means that even conservative rightists are not satisfied with the president's actions. This fell out of the middle class. For example, it was 50% to 40%. That and now it's a completely different story to fall to 26% approval ratings. Therefore, the presidential office is also taking a very serious view of the situation in which the departure of key supporters has become a reality, so it is an unusual position. In the end, the conservative right thinks so in a place that can be called the headquarters, and the president and Yongsan must be changed in order to regain power in the future. It is very inconvenient for the current situation, and it can only be seen as a clear indication of this point.

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon said he would continue to criticize Yongsan. He is the CEO of the conservative company, and he also referred to himself as this. Let's listen to it for a moment.

In TK, which is the headquarters of conservatives, I shouted, "I'm the CEO of conservatives." What does it mean?

[Applicant owner]
First of all, many conservative supporters seem to think that they appointed themselves as CEO of the conservative regime and conservative groups because the vote rate was 63 percent when they became the party leader this time. In terms of shareholders and party members, many shareholders appointed me as CEO, but if you are in Yongsan, you can think that President Yoon Suk Yeol is a retired honorary chairman, but for now, that's right. Now, CEO Han Dong-hoon often says, "I'm trying to live with you, I'm trying to live with you."

What this is is, in the end, representative Han Dong-hoon visited to live on his own during the last meeting with the president. He knows that saving the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is his way to live. But even though it's giving advice in the public sphere, the president takes it personally. Because, after all, Yoon Suk Yeol's president will be guaranteed a more stable position after he leaves office, but this was broken as he privately recognized it as an attack on his spouse. So if CEO Han Dong-hoon, who runs the current company, is the CEO, President Yoon Suk Yeol can't run the company privately as an honorary chairman or chairman. Isn't it the job of the president or chairman to increase the profits of shareholders?

So, I don't know if CEO Han Dong-hoon is listening to the messages of constant bone-bashing and turning criticism on that part in Yongsan, but I think it will increase President Yoon Suk Yeol's pain and discomfort.

[Anchor]
Representative Han Dong-hoon will also hold a press conference on the 100th day of his inauguration, but the higher the voice of representative Han Dong-hoon, the higher the level of criticism from Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo seems to be. Daegu Mayor of Hong Joon Pyo, who has been posting on social media every day. If Gannos like Reming are installed, the party is no longer able to survive. A regime we have bloodied back. You posted a message urging the unity of the party, saying, "Let's all be one," but did you express your close relationship as a man like Reming?

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how it can be interpreted. It's a bit expressive. From the perspective of the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo, he has been the party leader twice and a presidential candidate, so I think he can express his intention about the current situation of the party if it differs from his or her opinion. CEO Han Dong-hoon, who just described himself as CEO. For party members, the term CEO is a very appropriate expression. Then what about President Yoon? As Director Seo Yong-joo said, President Yoon is everyone's president. Politics with conservative right-wing partisanship? You shouldn't look at it like that.

That's what I think. It's a little different in the case of the Hong Joon Pyo market. It's almost certain that you'll be in the presidential election in the future. In order to do so, its potential competitor, representative Han Dong-hoon, is also in a position to criticize the current party system. However, the level of expression is so high that there is always a hope that there will be no other misunderstanding.

[Anchor]
My expression has been getting rougher since I met with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol a while ago, do I misunderstand? What do you think?

[Applicant owner]
No, I've commented several times since the meeting, but the bar has finally been lifted by the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo's Facebook page and the level of his remarks. You'll be full of confidence now. Because you don't have to worry about it. There's a president in the back. I hate CEO Han Dong-hoon so much, but he rakes me from behind, so I make a lot of comments without hesitation. If you look at the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo, he's a very simple person. You can predict it. But I also wonder if the message of Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo will be able to gain strength. Recently, the pro-Yoon group launched a counterattack with the past quotes of Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, and if you look at it, the first lady is in the shade, the ugly Yoon nuclear-gwan. a special inspector, as soon as possible I said these things. So what's that with what we're talking about? It's not easy to say that the message has an identity.

And I have to unite as one sad and pathetic thing. What's the point of being so united? Now the people will think about that statement like this. Should the ruling party and all conservatives unite to protect the president's spouse? He says, "I don't think that's right," but I don't know what Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo heard from President Yoon Suk Yeol, but it's evaluated as not a good message flow.

[Anchor]
He criticized the closeness community that he is acting as a pawn of the faction, but I don't know if such remarks will really help the party unite. At today's leadership meeting, a war of nerves was openly expressed between factions over the so-called Special Inspector controversy. Let's hear what's been said.

One side wants to close the door and fight, and the other side wants to open the door and fight, but anyway, it's a war of nerves between factions, and Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk is a representative member of the close circle, so let's vote on this as a special inspector. That's what I said. Is this the official position of the close-knit community?

[Yoon Heesuk]
I'm not in a position to say whether it's official or not, but I think it's a personal opinion. I've never heard of any discussions about it.

[Anchor]
CEO Han Dong-hoon never mentioned it?

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's right. So, of course, there's a point about Supreme Council member Kim Jonghyuk's opinion.I don't think Ma is a dimension that conveys the opinions of many people. The atmosphere within the party is now about the parliamentary assembly, and let's decide on the party's intention regarding the special inspector through a vote at the parliamentary assembly, but it is too much to go to the vote. Is this something to vote on? I understand that this opinion has become much more common over the weekend. In Yo-han, the Supreme Council member, probably said it at that level, and I think this will be a stumbling block among the remaining issues, so I think we will go in the direction of smooth resolution through dialogue between those responsible.

[Anchor]
I think it would be nice if you could show the picture of the Supreme Council today in a big way. Representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho. Immediately after the meeting with the president, there was a very subtle conflict between the close and the pro-yoon circles over President Yoon Suk Yeol's dinner with only floor leader Choo Kyung-ho, and those two, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and representative Han Dong-hoon, met face-to-face at the leadership meeting today. I don't know what the atmosphere was like, but did you meet and talk separately?

[Yoon Heesuk]
As far as I know, you talked separately this morning as well. That's what I know, and I know you'll probably meet separately in the next few days. The important thing is that there is an audit of the steering committee on Friday, November 1st. In that regard, I expect that various issues, including the special inspector system, will be set in direction before that, as the party and the Presidential Office have reached a complete agreement and need to prepare something.

[Anchor]
What is CEO Han Dong-hoon's inner feelings like? Do you want to just vote and show them that close relationships are this powerful? Or will it not hurt our leadership if we go without a vote?

[Applicant owner]
First of all, it's better to go without a vote. Because in the people's eyes, it's really a shame for the family when the floor leader and the party leader go into a voting war. Because is the special inspector a matter of living or dying for the people? It's not a vote on that, it's not Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor, it's a special inspection. After all, it's not even a solution to risk. Even more so, the president of Yoon Suk Yeol and the power of the people are making public their presidential election pledges. It is embarrassing for the public to see such things, so for representative Han Dong-hoon, it would be best to just coordinate with the floor leader to finish it well.

However, I think the reason why floor leader Choo Kyung-ho has no choice but to die is that the opinion polls released on Friday also had an impact. Isn't the conservative public sentiment itself focused on Han Dong-hoon amid a conflict between the president's approval rating just before the electronic display was turned off and the decoupling of the people's power that can be represented by Han Dong-hoon? However, I think there may be a judgment that if we go too far here and set up an angle with representative Han Dong-hoon and go to the parliamentary assembly with a special inspection issue, there will be no political benefit for floor leader Choo Kyung-ho in the future. So, I think that representative Han Dong-hoon and floor leader Choo Kyung-ho will reach an agreement on issues that do not dramatically reach a vote at the general meeting.

[Anchor]
Met on a single tree bridge but can reach an agreement. Let's just do it without a vote. Then, the important thing is that the process leaves a process for floor leader Choo Kyung-ho to persuade Yongsan, right?

[Yoon Heesuk]
You can see it that way, or you can preemptively come up with something in Yongsan. No one knows.What I can tell you is to vote at the parliamentary assembly. I really want to say that not many people think this far.

[Anchor]
Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk insisted on voting, but he stressed that this is not official. What's important for the Democratic Party is, do we get it if we reach an agreement here?

[Applicant owner]
There is no reason to receive it at this point. So, the special inspector and the director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation have been linked, but currently, the political effectiveness of Kim Gun-hee is almost sky-high. Under these circumstances, Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the ruling party, or a special inspector from the standpoint of the people's power. Not even a special prosecutor. Bring a special inspector and use this as a desperate measure for now. Then let's discuss the independent counsel, not this. The Democratic Party of Korea is a special prosecutor rather than a special prosecutor because it is not sufficient as a subject or material for negotiation. So, even if representative Han Dong-hoon solves the problem of special inspection within the party, he will have to come up with a solution to the special prosecution at a meeting between the ruling and opposition parties with representative Lee Jae-myung. So the DP will probably decide whether to cooperate with the special inspection after hearing Han Dong-hoon's position on the independent counsel. I think you can see it like that.

[Anchor]
Is there a possibility of conditional acceptance?

[Applicant owner]
Since there is a high public opinion that the risk of Kim Gun-hee cannot be avoided in this way, not conditional acceptance, the Democratic Party of Korea can also be met with a whirlwind of public sentiment as soon as it accepts the special inspection.

[Anchor]
Anyway, November is just around the corner, and in November, the opposition party is putting up this keyword. Please show us the next topic. I think it's going to be a time of struggle. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party, and Cho Kuk, all of them will go out. I'll fight. I'm making this declaration. CEO Lee Jae-myung said this on a YouTube channel. Let's hear what you're talking about.

This is a soft poison. To put it another way, CEO Lee Jae-myung is emphasizing that he will join the outdoor struggle together. How did you see it?

[Yoon Heesuk]
You're talking about coup d'etat and pro-Wi coup d'etat using various terms. I think the Democratic Party or the New Fatherland Party are engaged in a violent coup against the rule of law. Since the National Assembly held a hearing, conducted a mock trial, and threatened the prosecutor and the judge, it seems that there is no way to avoid this point if it is not anti-rule. It's suddenly cold, so I'm going to come out and fight outside. These are the so-called first trial rulings they have, representative Lee Jae-myung, who has two left, and representative of the country ahead of the Supreme Court ruling. It can only be seen that it is related to their personal problems. As a result, after that, after the judgment, we think we're guilty. If you want to do something after that ruling, wouldn't you be able to make a device in advance and then fight?

[Anchor]
Do you think it's preheating?

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's right. The government of Yoon Suk Yeol should be impeached and resigned. You have to make this to say something that you can do even if the ruling comes out. In particular, in the case of the Cho Kuk New Party, if the ruling is confirmed as it is, the representative of Cho Kuk disappears from the political circle. Then, since it is also related to the existence of the party, we have no choice but to fight outside of the office like that in order to leave something behind. I think it is an example of the pitiful situation of the two parties, who have no choice but to do something outside the system.

[Anchor]
Representative Cho Kuk read the impeachment declaration altogether. So, before the struggle, I put out two letters of impeachment. Will the Democratic Party and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party merge or will they go separately?

[Applicant owner]
I don't think it's going to be combined so far. So, even if the Cho Kuk Innovation Party and the Democratic Party fight outside the same, there is clearly a difference in temperature. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party is directly discussing the impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol, and the Democratic Party is a contest to condemn Kim Gun-hee. It's a condemnation. So is it fair for the Yoon Suk Yeol government, which has been bent on protecting its spouse and continuing to talk about fairness and common sense even though Kim Geon-hee continues to be a major stumbling block in state affairs? The Democratic Party of Korea's position is to create an opportunity to abandon the responsibility of state affairs, abandon the future of the conservative government, and abandon the people's livelihoods to protect their spouse. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party was born to impeach President Yoon Suk Yeol. Three years is too long. That is to say, because he said he would change the position of Yoon Suk Yeol's president within three years, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, as it was in its own party, is now acting extremely now with its message of confusion in state administration as a condemnation of the impeachment, so the DP should limit it to a convention to denounce Kim Gun-hee for now.

[Anchor]
Anyway, he stressed that the keywords are completely different. The opposition party, which has recently been increasing its offensive against the ruling party, is also criticizing the government with considerable intensity over North Korea's dispatch of troops to Russia. The Democratic Party of Korea is also attacking Han Ki-ho's text. It's this text you're looking at right now. This is a text message between Rep. Han Ki-ho and Shin Won-sik, head of the security office. If cooperation is possible with Ukraine, I would like to bomb North Korean military units and strike missiles to cause damage and use the damage as a psychological war against North Korea. This text, which Shin Won-sik, head of the security office, replied that he would take good care of it, was controversial. Of course, the presidential office has stated this position that this is not the official position of the government. Let's hear what the Democratic Party is talking about.

Isn't it a small spark that can lead to a great war? The Democratic Party is attacking like this right now.

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's too much to say. What do you mean a war owner? Does Korea have that kind of national power? I don't think so at all, and I talk all over the world. One of the 108 members of our party had an exchange of personal opinions in the military and a policy chief who had an exchange in the party.

[Anchor]
Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun also said, "Isn't he a soldier's spirit?"

[Yoon Heesuk]
Since both of you were former Samsung generals, didn't the Minister of National Defense immediately deny such conversations? I think it's something that should stop at that level.

[Anchor]
In the power of the people, I know to criticize this, but Chairman Kim Jong-un is responding like this, saying, "Shouldn't we criticize first?"

[Applicant owner]
As for Chairman Kim Jong-un, the Democratic Party has always said that it is not normal. North Korea is not a normal group. What are you going to do if you swear at a group that is not normal every time? There are regulations, and what is important is the conversation Han Ki-ho had with the head of the National Security Office. How can this be a private conversation? This is a public conversation. And why are we stepping in here when the war in Ukraine continues now? Rep. Han Ki-ho said that it was absurd even though he was cautious and apologized in that it could adversely affect the situation on the Korean Peninsula in a situation that could lead to a proxy war between the two Koreas. Does it make sense? In that regard, I would like high-ranking officials from the military in the current administration, who are in charge of security, to come to their senses.

[Anchor]
Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok's talk of martial law came out again this time, and it remains to be seen whether it can be related to martial law. So far, it has been two people, Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Thank you.