[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 18, 2024 (Monday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Park Soo-hyun, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.
◇ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee on my way to work. Let's continue with the second part. When Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, was sentenced to imprisonment in the first trial for violating the Public Official Election Act, Lee Jae-myung expressed his appeal, saying it was difficult to accept. On the other hand, they say that the power of the people is a strict judgment. I will talk to Park Soo-hyun, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea, by phone. Hello,
◆ Rep. Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party (hereinafter referred to as Park Soo-hyun): Yes, hello. I'm Park Soo-hyun.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Jae-myung was sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation in the first trial of violation of the Public Official Election Act. What's the Democratic Party like?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: In a word, you are in anger and rage. At the same time, since this issue has to go to the process of being acquitted by an appeals court, we should stay calm and respond well to the legal principles while being in anger and rage. That's what I'm thinking.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, he criticized holding an outdoor rally, saying, "The power of the people is a runaway that shakes the foundation of the rule of law." How did you like it?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: So if the power of the people is to be as strong as the ruling party and the power of the people is to live well, we need to wake up. The outdoor rally was not held to save representative Lee Jae-myung. Since it is said that first lady Kim Gun-hee must observe and do it, don't you think Lee Jae-myung is Lee Jae-myung and then we say Yoon Gun-hee in the square? President Yoon Seok-yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee are called co-regime, and there are various suspicions about this issue, including the intervention of the nomination, but Lee Jae-myung's issue and this issue are separate issues. That's why you shouldn't keep trying to water it down. Both the Democratic Party and the Square have plans to clearly separate and respond to this issue.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: But CEO Lee Jae-myung said in this square that Lee Jae-myung will not die.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Yes, that's right. That's because of course it's a rally the day after the verdict. It's your problem, and the people are angry together, and for the Democratic Party, it's a prosecution based on manipulation and distortion of the prosecution, and the court has accepted the prosecution's indictment even though the logic of the law is clear, so you can come out to the square and condemn such a problem. Anyway, the important thing is that there is no reason for Lee Jae-myung's problems and these issues, which are close to any reason for impeachment by President Yoon Seok-yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, to be washed out and diluted like this. I think so.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Kang Seung-gyu, a member of the People's Power. At the party level, we propose to push for the resignation committee of Chairman Lee Jae-myung and the fact-finding committee on the suspicious affairs related to Chairman Lee Jae-myung. How did you hear Kang Seung-gyu's argument?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Well, that's what the ruling party is not doing right now. That's what the conservative media reported today. What the people's power should do now is not to miss this opportunity as the ruling party, but in other words, the leader of the main opposition party should have an opportunity for reform at this time, even though it is a ridiculous ruling from our point of view. When people's livelihoods are so devastated and politics are so messed up, do you still have the spirit to make such a political attack against the leader of the main opposition Democratic Party? Anyway, it's up to you. We have the idea that we will respond to these problems clearly, and the problem you just mentioned is that the people's power gave up the people's livelihood, and now Lee Joon-seok, former chairman of the People's Power, is now revealing in detail that President Yoon Suk Yeol has intervened in the nomination process. Even so, if we don't think about dealing with it and focus on attacking the main opposition party now, as conservative media pointed out, the only way for the people's power to be destroyed in the end is to collapse. It's a matter of your own.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I feel a lot of anger and excitement today.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: When you think about the broadcast, you feel sorry, but you can feel a little from my remarks that this is how much we have right now.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: We are very surprised by your personality right now. CEO Lee Jae-myung said, "I won't die," as I said earlier. Professor Jin Jung-kwon of Kangwon National University dies because of the people around him. That's what I pointed out. It's on social media. How did you feel about that?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Anyway, Professor Jin Joong-kwon, I once respected him and he was like that, but don't you think Korea is one of the representative intellectuals? That's what I thought. However, you have to speak clearly about these issues as an intellectual, but what kind of effect would Lee Jae-myung have had on various unfortunate events around him? It is unfortunate, sorry, and unfortunate, but it is not an intellectual attitude to say that it was because of CEO Lee Jae-myung. On the contrary, if you say so, do you have to open up the possibility of how much they despaired of such a tyrannical investigation by the prosecution and would have made such an extremely unfortunate choice? Anyway, once again, we all feel sorry for the unfortunate events that happened around Representative Lee Jae-myung, and we really feel sorry for the bereaved families and them, but it is very regrettable that you speak so unilaterally and unilaterally like an intellectual in analyzing and doing the cause.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: But in this court ruling. The name of the late Kim Moon-ki is included more than 290 times, and the process of killing his life is included in some detail. I also helped CEO Lee Jae-myung respond to the investigation, but when the corporation punished him for leaking confidential information without permission, he said he killed himself the next day, and I think the crime was judged here. These aren't issues that can be overlooked, right?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I don't know. That's how the court judges and accepts such things, but isn't there a clear logic and legal principle that representative Lee Jae-myung is talking about? And when you were a presidential candidate, you went on a broadcast and asked by an anchor, and the anchor asked you like this. Didn't you know Kim Moon-ki when you were mayor of Seongnam? I asked like this. In a limited way, CEO Lee Jae-myung says he didn't know well when he was mayor of Seongnam. Doesn't that mean there are about 500 team leaders? However, since Daejang-dong and others took issue with it while serving as governor of Gyeonggi-do Province, so who knows best to grasp this fact? So, Kim Moon-ki said that he was a working-level worker, so he got to know Kim Moon-ki when he said that he didn't know Kim Moon-ki, but how can the prosecution file a prosecution suit and the court accept the indictment as it is? This problem is because there is a clear logic anyway. I think this is a matter to be considered in the appeal trial.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: I'm not saying I don't know what I told you, but I asked you about the judgment because there was a questionnaire from the fact-finding committee. There could be a final ruling sometime next year. There's a prediction like this. Of course, it might not fly. However, once the ruling is finalized, the election cost must also be returned now. It is said to be about 43.4 billion won. Are there any concerns at the party level?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: We are not concerned about that. Because I don't know what's different about this problem. However, not only our members but also many people thought that the violation of the Public Official Election Act, which relates to the preservation of election expenses paid to such a political party, would be so clearly innocent. You're thinking about this ruling that it's too harsh and doesn't make sense. That's why we're not worried about the return of any party subsidies or these issues because we're sure to be acquitted at the appeal trial.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Right now, the Democratic Party of Korea is not considering changing the party leader, so what is the reason? Is that the reason?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: No, it's not that problem, but it's almost the first time that Lee Jae-myung has been elected as a representative for a second term in the Democratic Party. After President Kim Dae Jung, the party members overwhelmingly elected a second-term representative after knowing all these so-called judicial risks. And if you look at not only the party members but also the 30% public opinion survey, it is almost the same as the support of the party members. The people also judged that there is a so-called judicial risk that representative Lee Jae-myung should bear, but not only party members but also the people need representative Lee Jae-myung to check the current regime in Yoon Suk Yeol. That's why I'm the representative selected on the premise that the judicial risks may become a reality. Therefore, even before the first trial's ruling, there have already been several interviews and articles, but the Democratic Party of Korea remains more united and unshakable, centered on Chairman Lee Jae-myung.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. However, there will also be a perjury teacher on the 25th. CEO Han Dong-hoon also said that the perjury teacher investigation became possible because of his prosecutor's uniform. How did you like it?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I don't know. I was a little surprised when I saw it, and I thought CEO Han Dong-hoon was also showing the size of a person. What I'm talking about is the leader of the ruling party, the leader of the opposition party, who plays politics together. But when the leader of the opposition party is being subjected to this, should the leader of the ruling party do so in such a flirtatious manner? Then, if I give you back, we think it was because of the Enforcement Decree of the Prosecutor's uniform, which CEO Han Dong-hoon boasts about, that gave an indulgence to Kim Gun-hee, the luxury goods case, and the Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case. I'd like to return it like that, asking if it's something to be proud of.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: How do you expect the ruling on the suspicion of perjury teacher this time?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I don't know. I can't tell you that. However, he was confident that the sentence of the Public Official Election Act would be clearly innocent or virtually innocent. On the other hand, there was relatively a little concern about not knowing what the perjury teacher problem would be like. However, I can't tell you because I'm not an expert, but our party is also aware of the clear logic of innocence that Lee Jae-myung has. But even though we know that, we don't know how the court will judge with other things that we don't know, but what we have is that we still have sufficient law of innocence for perjury teachers.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: But you said relatively, but I guess you expected the possibility of guilt more than the Public Official Election Act.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I was more convinced of the possibility of an earlier judgment on the Public Official Election Act than of a perjury teacher. You can think of it in that sense.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Are you going to appeal if the judgment is unfavorable again this time?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Of course I'll appeal. And still I am. Isn't it a very good and mature democracy that we always say is the principle of innocence, and that any natural citizen is guaranteed such a right? In that respect, no matter how high public interest and competitive it is, I think that Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the main opposition party, should be guaranteed the principle of presumption of innocence.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: There is a first meeting of former lawmakers of the Democratic Party of Korea. The first episode announced that it would gather before and after the sentencing of the perjury teacher case. You are giving a lecture to Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum this time, do you see him as an alternative force for Representative Lee Jae-myung?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I can't mention any alternative forces right now. It is a consistent story within our party that Lee Jae-myung is the only choice and the only alternative now. After the absurd ruling of the first trial, the atmosphere is now stronger, and there are people who are considered as so-called alternatives. However, they are well aware that now is not the time to act like that or show such feelings, but now is the time to fight together in unity over certain rulings and things like this.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Regarding this, if Rep. Choi Min-hee also moves, I will scold her with the party members. He warned me like this. I guess that's the atmosphere.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Now is not a matter of support or opposition to Representative Lee Jae-myung, but what matters more is how to protect this democracy that is collapsing overnight, so no matter how many politicians think differently about Representative Lee Jae-myung, I think they understand well that this is not the time to question such screams and relatives, but to fight together about a democracy that is collapsing against this cruel Yoon Suk Yeol regime.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Five parties gathered in the opposition party to launch a coalition of impeachment members, and isn't there a lawmaker here as a co-leader? However, the Democratic Party itself seems to have not yet made an official position. Is this impeachment your personal position? Or how.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Those who are participating here are individual and voluntary members of Congress. And when we ran for office, we started with a very cautious name because it was called the solidarity of lawmakers preparing for impeachment. As a result, impeachment is about discussing unconstitutionality and illegality, so we don't start by proposing impeachment right away. We should organize the unconstitutional legislative elements and then calmly prepare for the challenges of the social reform of how to raise this collapsed Korea if the unfortunate situation of impeachment comes. However, the atmosphere has changed since the voice recording of Myung Tae-kyun and President Yoon Suk Yeol came out last time. This is not the time to add preparation or anything. We think this is a clear reason for impeachment. However, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party is preparing to propose an impeachment bill when, but the Democratic Party is not doing that right now. Anyway, this issue is an ultimatum and warning that the Yoon Suk Yeol administration is shocked that the National Assembly to the Yoon Suk Yeol administration has begun to talk about impeachment, even including Democratic lawmakers.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Since we talked about Myung Tae-kyun. Myung Taekyun has been arrested. In addition, Rep. Lee Joon-seok, who was the party leader at the time, is now making a new argument. Rep. Lee Joon-seok also said that he could investigate again. What do you think about the current situation?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: As a result, it's a question of how far the prosecution's investigation at the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office will go. Of course, this issue should be investigated by many people who are mentioned, and eventually, it should be investigated even there with President Yoon Suk Yeol's wife and First Lady Kim Gun-hee. However, I wonder if the prosecution has such a willingness to investigate the case of Deutsche Motors' stock price manipulation, and if the prosecution can investigate the case with the cell phone returned, will it be possible to investigate it that far? Watching. I think we should say this with the people and conduct an investigation.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: The opposition party alone has dealt with the amendment to the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, so what do you think about the possibility of passing the representative's failure after the request for reconsideration?
◆ Park Soo-hyun: This issue was originally expected to be approved in a re-voting vote because if Representative Lee Jae-myung's first trial sentence was acquitted or virtually as expected, Yoon Suk Yeol's third veto of the Kim Gun-hee independent counsel law would be regarded as a great deal of anger by the people. Now, each camp is strongly gathering with each other due to Lee Jae-myung's first trial ruling, so I think it will probably act as a very different variable.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: It won't pass. That's what you're talking about.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: Personally, I'm looking at it a little worried.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Thank you for the interview even though you're having a hard time today.
◆ Park Soo-hyun: I'm sorry that I'm doing this interview with a little bit of a passion, but I hope you know that's what we're feeling in the present.
◇ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Thank you. So far, we've been with Park Soo-hyun of the Democratic Party of Korea.
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