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■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: December 19, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Cho Kyung-tae, member of the People's Power,
- 尹 Lies to the People... Change of Position 'Sung-Sung-ran'
- Investigation Non-cooperation and Your Own Feelings... Bad President
- The emergency committee should apologize to the people in the spirit of the tent party
- What is the first task of the emergency committee? 'Separation of Party and President Yoon'
- Separation of Yoon and Party under Kwon Sung-dong's system? Is it possible
- 尹, President who made a disgraceful case of advanced South Korea
- Han Deok-soo vetoes the special prosecution? Burdening
- Can the president forgive the emergency rule that has greatly lowered national dignity?
- 尹, you lose the confidence of the commander-in-chief. You don't deserve to worry about security
- People's power, if you play fair and square with Lee Jae-myung, you will win.
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◆ Shinryul: Shinryul News Head-to-head Match Part 2 begins. It's time for a face-to-face interview. Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power, is on the phone. Hello, Senator.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Hello. I'm Cho Kyung-tae.
◆ Shin Yul: You're busy these days because there's so much going on, right?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: It seems that there is still a lot of shock from the emergency martial law that the people experienced for the first time in 45 years. Members are also quite there in a way that they have a lot of difficulties due to the shock.
◆ Shin Yul: The breaking news of the investigation keeps coming up. All the documents sent by the Constitutional Court on the 16th by President Yoon Suk Yeol have not been delivered. I told them that it hasn't been delivered. The security is refusing to accept it. despite three visits to the official residence In fact, he is not the legal representative of President Yoon Suk Yeol, but lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who can say that he is close to his close confidant, did not say anything about his arrest, which is ridiculous. How do you interpret this when you say this but you don't receive it?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: The president lied a lot recently, too. Is it actually last Saturday? What did you say at the time when you apologized for the public statement? Didn't you announce that you would do the job to the party anyway, including the term of office? And then I didn't keep my promise. So I think the president's statement is actually a promise to the people and isn't it to the people? What's with all those promises? You shouldn't change your position, but I think this person is very good at that. What else did this person say, and didn't he promise the people that he would not avoid legal and political responsibility related to the constitutional amendment? Then, seeing him refuse to receive such data from the Constitutional Court and not respond to the prosecution's uncooperative summons for any investigation, he is a dangerous and bad president. I think about this a lot. Danger is a president who gives the impression that he can do something as he wants without thinking about the safety of the people and the safety of the people. And he's a very bad president who doesn't keep his promises and doesn't keep his promises to the people. That's how I see it.
◆ Shin Yul: Is the appointment of the emergency committee chairman early next week? How do you watch it when you say you're going to release something?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I've already talked about the direction of the emergency committee through the media. When the emergency committee is formed, the first thing to do is to go back to the spirit of the tent company and apologize to the people. And the first task that the emergency committee should do is to start the work of separating the president of Yoon Suk Yeol from our party as soon as possible, and I hope that a suitable emergency committee will be formed there.
◆ Shin Yul: Some people seem to say that Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, is concurrently holding office.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I hope the floor leader Kwon Sung-dong can overcome this difficult situation even if he concurrently holds the position.Ma will be able to play that role in how to sever the relationship with the president and how to separate it from the president, as I just told you. If I play that role, I can have a concurrent position.In any case, if our party takes the image of a party that advocates emergency martial law, it is very likely that we will be defeated in various elections as well as the presidential election. I think so.
◆ Shin Yul: You said that the relationship is broken, but in fact, most of the voices that come out now from within the power of the people are on the pro-Yoon side.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right. I want to say this to the pro-Yoon lawmakers or those on the ultra-conservative side who are listening to the show now. Emergency martial law is an act that is often used in such countries where the situation is very unstable, which is not declared in developed countries. In 2000, there were four countries that made emergency martial law. The most recent country was Myanmar in 2021. Myanmar, Thailand, the Philippines, and Egypt. These four countries entered into emergency martial law in 2000. What do these countries have in common? Developing or underdeveloped countries with GDP per capita of less than $1,000 to $6,000. So, Korea is $36,000 this year and GDP per capita is $36,000. This is an achievement made by the blood and sweat of our people and citizens. I would like to ask you whether you can forgive the president who created emergency martial law that greatly reduced the national dignity created by some really disgraceful form of advanced Korea.
◆ Shin Yul: By the way. Isn't it NBS, a national indicator survey released today? Embrain Public, KStat Research, Korea Research, and Korea Research conducted a telephone interview with 1,002 men and women aged 18 and over nationwide from December 16 to 18. For more information, you can refer to the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee. According to the survey, the public's support rate for power fell less than expected. So, in this public opinion poll, the public's support rate came out to 26%. 39% of the Democratic Party of Korea. And President Yoon's approval rating came out at 16%. However, 78% of the respondents said that impeachment was a good decision. Now, how do you view this situation, Cho Kyung-tae?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think 26% of our party still have representative Han Dong-hoon and 18 lawmakers who did their best to lift emergency martial law, right? And isn't there another 12 people, including me, who took the lead in impeachment this time? I think that the people gave me hope. I'm looking at it like this. And I think it's important to note that 78 percent of impeachment voted for impeachment. In this figure, a very large number of people in the middle probably voted for impeachment. Therefore, as I said, I believe that the people have recognized that the emergency martial law is clearly wrong, so we need to separate the people's power from the relationship with the president more firmly in this regard. That's what I'm looking at.
◆ Shin-ryul: So 26% of the people's power is coming out now thanks to lawmakers who voted for impeachment and those who played this role in lifting martial law before that. You can understand it like this.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: And on the other hand, in the Democratic Party of Korea, Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, is also very thick in terms of crime, right? In fact, in the last presidential election, it was said that we should not give Lee Jae-myung, the candidate of the Democratic Party of Korea, so in a way, our candidate was elected president at that time. So, I think that if we make a good candidate in a renegade with confidence, we have a chance of winning. But the people should not miss this opportunity when they are trying to give our party a chance now. So if we reflect desperately on our party's emergency martial law and build a new party on its foundation, I have hope for our party. That's how I see it.
◆ Shin Yul: What do you think the political future will be like in the future, Han Dong-hoon?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: There will probably be a series of investigations into the president's rebellion and there will be no ruling from the Constitutional Court, right? I don't know what the conclusion will come from that, but I think representative Han Dong-hoon's political decision was right. I think that if such situations continue to develop, there will be some expectations for CEO Han Dong-hoon.
◆ Shin Yul: So as time goes by, CEO Han Dong-hoon will have another opportunity. You can understand it by looking at it like this. And the other thing is Myung Taekyun. Isn't there a golden phone or something? There's that problem, and there's a person like this who's a health monk. There's also a lawyer's phone. How do you see this part? Can this have some effect on the dynamic structure within the power of the people? What do you think?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: There are already a lot of different theories. If the investigation continues on this part and various parts with any politicians, whether it is a golden phone or a progressive judicial phone, come out here, wouldn't enough variables work for me? I'm looking at it like this. I hope that the investigation will be carried out as soon as possible on this part, so that the truth will be revealed.
◆ Shin Yul: And now acting president Han Deok-soo vetoed six bills today. Now, there are two remaining laws left: the Special Prosecutor's Law for Kim Gun-hee and the Special Prosecutor's Law for Insurrection. Do you think you're going to veto two things as well? What do you think?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think we can probably veto things related to people's livelihoods in that regard. Regarding the independent counsel, however, I think the president has some pressure on whether the acting president will be able to veto such a thing, given the impeachment motion is passed. That's how I see it. In other words, there is a possibility that the veto will be exercised by distinguishing between parts related to the national economy and political issues. That's how I see it.
◆ Shin-ryul: If that's the case. I don't know whether the Democratic Party of Korea is threatening or not, but there are talks about the impeachment of acting President Han Deok-soo. How do you see this?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: If the Democratic Party of Korea does something too political with a majority and an absolute majority, I may face a backlash. I'm looking at it like this. Of course, our party is being hit hard by such things as emergency martial law, but the people are very wise. If the Democratic Party continues to have such an image as a self-serving party to achieve its political goals for its own benefit at this time of turmoil, it will not be a very good sign for them. I'm looking at it like this. That's why it's my story that our party should quickly brush off the wrong parts first. If we admit to what our party is doing wrong and the people's power is reborn, I can have hope in the next presidential election. That's how you look at it.
◆Shin Yul: But President Yoon Suk Yeol just saw the breaking news. I am very concerned about security concerns. There's a breaking news like this. How do you watch that?
◇Cho Kyung-tae: I think that President Yoon Suk Yeol does not deserve to be concerned about security. Because of this person, we are in a state of chaos and a security crisis. I think that acting President Han Deok-soo is working hard all night for our country's security and economic problems. The current president as the commander-in-chief is already...
◆ Synthesis: You do not have permission.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think it's time for a new leadership in that area.
◆ Shin Yul: So don't worry and Prime Minister Han Deok-soo is doing well, so you don't have to worry about that. I think that's what you're talking about. But in fact, lawmaker Cho Kyung-tae is the best multi-term lawmaker in Korea. You're in the sixth term. You've had a lot of elections, haven't you? By the way, what do you think of this fraudulent election? Former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan also briefly mentioned that today, what do you think?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: In a way, I see it like this because it's an interpretation of the inner man. If there was a fraudulent election, President Yoon Suk Yeol won the last presidential election by 0.74 percent. If you manipulate 1% more, wouldn't that administration have passed over to the Democratic Party? So I think you need to explain how you won that part. In addition, he won in many areas, including Seoul, in the local elections that followed. If you look at Seoul now, more than two-thirds of city councilors are the power of the people. Also, the number of heads of local governments is the power of the people. Then how can these people be elected when they had a fraudulent election? I think some people's judgment is very bitter. We lost the election because we were wrong, because if we did well, there is no reason to lose the election. So the very impure forces that try to cover up losing an election by their own fault in the name of rigged elections, I doubt they deserve to be part of a democratic society.
◆ Shin-ryul: But the NIS is also known to have told the National Assembly again today that there was no fraudulent election in the election committee. I don't know why the president is so into this.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: They say that they're probably watching a lot of YouTube around there. Isn't the problem of my qualifications as a president revealed here? As some of these YouTube claims, just shouting like this. Does it make sense to do emergency martial law again because of this? If I were a very dangerous, unstable, and unqualified president. So I insisted that I step down immediately and step down immediately, but now I think the answer is to suspend my duties and bring them down like this even with impeachment.
◆ Shin Yul: Don't you watch YouTube, Senator Cho?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I watch YouTube, but shouldn't I be able to distinguish between right and wrong? How can a person who can't even distinguish that much be the leader of the Republic of Korea?
◆ Shin Yul: How long do you think the impeachment trial will take?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Don't you already feel that you're intentionally delaying this part? I think we need to move on quickly and overcome the current difficulty. Today, the exchange rate exceeded 1450 won.
◆ Shin Yul: Yes, that's right.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: It is so unstable that it is said that a second disturbance occurs if it exceeds 1,500 won. Isn't there a lot of talk that one of the biggest reasons why the exchange rate is soaring to that exchange rate right now is that our tax increase is unstable?
◆ Shin Yul: There's a lot of things that overlap. Really.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think we should do our best to stabilize the national economy by stabilizing the situation quickly.
◆ Shin Yul: But some say that it's because he's very conscious of CEO Lee Jae-myung. What do you think?
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: If Representative Lee Jae-myung analyzes it coolly from the perspective of our party, isn't he also under investigation and various crimes are being revealed? From our party's point of view, it's worth sticking together. In fact, I don't think candidate Yoon Suk Yeol became president because he was so pretty or positive at the time. I think there are people who want our country to not become a country dominated by criminals. In that sense, I think that if I play fair and square with CEO Lee Jae-myung, I can secure some good results.
◆ Shin-ryul: You can overcome impeachment. Even now, it is worth fighting with representative Lee Jae-myung.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right.
◆ Shin Yul: Yes, I understand. Anyway, in a very chaotic situation and in this situation, the multiple-term lawmaker like you took the center stage, so we feel that such an interview is very valuable to us. Thank you for your words today. Thank you.
◇Kyungtae Cho: Thank you.
◆ Shin Yul: It was Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power.
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