President Yoon's 3rd summons..."Cutting the top line" by Kim Yonghyun.

■ Host: Anchor Jeong Jin-hyung and anchor Lee Eun-sol
■ Starring: Baek Jong-gyu, social affairs reporter

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[Anchor]
We will continue to investigate the emergency martial law investigation with reporter Baek Jong-kyu of the Ministry of Social Affairs. Please come in. As President Yoon Suk Yeol has refused to comply with the request for attendance twice by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, will the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit issue a third summons notice this time? Attention was focused on this part of whether to seek an arrest warrant or not, but I think it was finally decided as a third summons notice. What kind of background is it?

[Reporter]
First of all, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit notified President Yoon of the third summons at 10 a.m. on the 29th. As in the second request for attendance, we sent a request for attendance by express mail to the official residence, the presidential office, the general secretary's office, and the annex office. President Yoon Suk Yeol did not respond to the request for an investigation on the 18th and 25th. President Yoon Suk Yeol has yet to appoint a lawyer to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. He also thought about requesting an arrest warrant immediately from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but it seems that he has issued a third summons notice in terms of the need for sufficient efforts to investigate the possibility of a forced investigation by the incumbent president. According to the principle of due process under the Constitution and the Criminal Procedure Act, it is judged that there will be no procedural defects. Usually, the investigative agency requests the suspect to attend three times. However, if the suspect does not respond to the investigation without a valid reason, he will seek an arrest warrant from the court.

[Anchor]
As you said, didn't the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit publicly announce the policy of reviewing arrest warrants at the beginning of the case? However, some say that they are in a cautious mode as they are given one more chance.

[Reporter]
That's right. Oh Dong-woon, head of the Airborne Division, has expressed his willingness to investigate the arrest. In a questionnaire to the National Assembly's Legislation and Judiciary Committee on the 9th, he emphasized that the crime of rebellion is a principle of arrest investigation. And on the 11th, he mentioned that he would try to arrest by emergency arrest or arrest warrant if the situation came up. However, the situation has changed a little after the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the prosecution took over the case and took the lead in the investigation. On the 24th, I repeatedly ask the president to spare his precious time. I expressed it like this. Some point out that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is not ready to arrest President Yoon right away. If you are arrested, you have only about 10 days to investigate. After that, the case has to be handed over to the prosecution for prosecution. Accordingly, it seems that the prosecution is first trying to secure the investigation records of the prosecution, such as Kim Yong-hyun, former Minister of National Defense, and a written indictment before Yoon Suk Yeol's attendance. With the transfer of the case, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which has taken full responsibility for the investigation of President Yoon, is expected to maintain a cautious mode. 12. 3 Another variable is the fact that the National Assembly passed the independent counsel law to investigate emergency martial law.

[Anchor]
And he is considered a key figure in this emergency martial law incident. Former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun held a press conference today and expressed his position on the emergency martial law crisis, what was it about?

[Reporter]
Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun held a press conference today. Kim drafted the decree, which President Yoon reviewed and partially revised. I mentioned it like this. At the same time, he said that martial law generally contains a curfew for the people, but the draft included a curfew. However, he claimed that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol saw this and ordered it to be deleted. President Yoon Suk Yeol, emphasizing that martial law is not directed at the general public, ordered the deletion. The lawyers said the emergency martial law was declared as a warning to the National Assembly to paralyze state affairs. And he has repeatedly argued that it does not constitute a rebellion as it is a constitutional authority for the president. At the same time, he declared an emergency martial law to raise the alarm about political evil using the National Assembly, such as the impeachment motion and the abolition of the budget. He also said that it is to resolve the public's suspicions about election management and to pass on a free Korea to future generations by organizing pro-North Korean juche groups that are secretive throughout our society. It seems that he has actively defended himself against charges of civil war with President Yoon as the pinnacle.

[Anchor]
It seems to be similar to the purpose of declaring martial law announced by President Yoon Suk Yeol after the emergency martial law. If that happens, does it even figure out that there is no fault?

[Reporter]
Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyers covered the president to the extent that they were mistaken for the president's lawyers. The lawyers reiterated that the president's declaration of legal and legitimate emergency martial law cannot be a civil war. He argued that if he had wanted to do full-scale and effective martial law, he would have declared martial law in Saebuck by deploying troops in advance and completely controlling the entry into the National Assembly's precinct. At the same time, he mentioned that the National Assembly and the NEC were divided into the National Assembly and the National Election Commission, and that they only put in the minimum number of troops and did not pay live ammunition or carry live ammunition. The lawyers also said Yoon Suk Yeol's president had clarified instructions not to block lawmakers from entering on the day of martial law. He said that he had not ordered Special Warfare Commander Kwak Jong-geun and National Police Agency Commissioner Jo Ji-ho to block the access to the lawmaker by phone. Since the so-called arrest group allegations included a ban on political activities, it is possible for the representatives of each party, who are expected to engage in political activities, to judge them as potential predictors and take preventive actions. He also expressed his position on former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, who is known to have led the preliminary plot of emergency martial law, such as ordering the control of the NEC. The lawyers explained that former commander Roh is a person who has nothing to do with President Yoon Suk Yeol and that he worked with former Minister Kim several times. At the same time, he admitted that former Minister Kim was right to seek advice from former Commander Roh. In August, he/she received advice on handling the intelligence leak incident and the suspicion of interfering with foreign forces in the NEC server. If the decision was made after former Minister Kim received advice and reported it to President Yoon Suk Yeol, the relationship from former Commander Roh to former Minister Kim to President Yoon Suk Yeol will be confirmed.

[Anchor]
But why did Kim's side end up holding such a press conference that seems to be actively defending Yoon Suk Yeol's side? What's the reason?

[Reporter]
As I mentioned earlier, there is an evaluation called cutting the top. It was a press conference that was almost consistent with President Yoon Suk Yeol's argument. However, this is the first time that former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun has made a public statement since the December 3 emergency martial law incident. While President Yoon Suk Yeol refused to investigate and announced his plan to focus on the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial, he held a press conference defending President Yoon Suk Yeol. Analysts say it is aimed at a more advantageous position in the impeachment trial of the Constitutional Court. Most of today's press conferences were in line with what President Yoon Suk Yeol has said so far. As if former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyers insisted on the legitimacy of the martial law declaration process, just like Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers. In the meantime, it seems to be the same as lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who represents the president of Yoon Suk Yeol after the lifting of the emergency martial law. It seems to be trying to block the way up to the peak of the civil war. There is also an evaluation that it is an upper line cut, which is a way to relieve
of merchant marine responsibility. However, according to what the lawyers revealed today, it seems that they made a claim that is far from the national sentiment. It seems that they are engaged in an off-the-shelf public opinion war without legalizing the investigation.

[Anchor]
If you look at former Minister Kim's claim, the contents of the decree came out. ban the political activities of the National Assembly Does it mean that President Yoon also approved the decree No. 1 with such unconstitutional content?

[Reporter]
That's right. Proclamation No. 1 prohibits any political activities. It comes out like this. However, there are many evaluations that this is unconstitutional. There are many observations that this will be the main evidence that will determine whether or not to cite impeachment.
In its impeachment resolution, it cites the fact that the decree of appeal is unconstitutional and illegal as one of the reasons for impeachment. The Constitution and martial law do not give presidents and commanders the power to ban parliament. Constitutional Court candidates and constitutional scholars view the decree as a major issue in the impeachment trial. However, according to former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's claim, President Yoon did not order the deletion or correction of this part. It is pointed out that this itself is a violation of the Constitution. Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun wrote most of the presidential statements and martial law declarations as well as proclamations, and claimed that the president only revised the wording.
It means that only the general public's curfew has been revised. The former minister Kim's claim is an acknowledgment that the president approved the decree No. 1, which violates the Constitution.

[Anchor]
You explained the contents, background, and outline of today's press conference. But during today's press conference, I think there was some commotion while only allowing some media to cover it.

[Reporter]
That's right. There was a commotion even before the press conference. At today's press conference, the lawyers stuck to their policy of allowing only coverage from some media outlets. Earlier, on the 24th, the schedule was announced through the SNS group chat room and announced that only reporters from this Kakao Talk chat room and group chat room would be invited. About 70 reporters participated in the chat room, and it is said that the reporters who requested the report were individually invited to the group chat room, or some reporters were sent off on the way. When the policy of restricting coverage became known, media organizations issued a statement calling for the withdrawal of restrictions on coverage by certain media companies. At the same time, all media insisted that they refused to cover it. It is said that many reporters and YouTubers flocked to the conference hall today. However, police officers were also dispatched in the process of confronting reporters and organizers who wanted to enter. In fact, some media outlets eventually failed to make it to the press conference. Former Minister Kim's side made a position on the media organization's statement at a press conference. He claimed that former Minister Kim, who is still under investigation, was a rebellion criminal, and that it is an expression that seriously undermines honor and pride.

[Anchor]
Another interest right now is the second stage of the investigation, right? The police are also investigating the place where former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won tried to set up under the Joint Investigation Headquarters, right?

[Reporter]
The police were investigating this. Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyer mentioned this today. Former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun ordered the Intelligence Command to form a second unit of investigation. That's how I acknowledged it. Former Minister Kim also said he planned intelligence command agents and counterintelligence command agents as units to be deployed to the NEC. He then said that there are domestic cartels that drive public opinion manipulation and election manipulation, and there are election manipulation forces based abroad. It seems that foreign base forces have decided to divide their duties into intelligence agencies and domestic counterintelligence agencies. He explained that the 2nd investigation group, which is organized around intelligence companies, is an organization to investigate illegal overseas elections. However, the lawyers also mentioned that martial law was lifted at the National Assembly and it was not implemented. The police are also investigating this part. Yesterday, he decided to head the 2nd Armored Brigade of the Army and the 2nd Investigation Team. We conducted an investigation into the commander of the former brigade. The head of the brigade raised such suspicions as if he was trying to mobilize a tank unit at the time of martial law by pre-mocking martial law. The police have also booked Bang Jung-hwan, the innovation planning officer at the Ministry of National Defense, who was mentioned as the deputy head of the investigation team 2, and Jung Sung-woo, the first chief of the counterintelligence agency, who was instructed to take control of the election committee, to coordinate the date of the summons. In addition, martial law forces were put into the parliamentary speaker's official residence. So, the National Assembly Secretariat also raised suspicions that it was trying to arrest Chairman Woo Won-sik. The police are also checking the facts related to the allegations. The police are investigating the basic facts of the personnel in the video, such as identifying their affiliation.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, the police were mobilized as an arrest team at the time of the emergency martial law. There was this suspicion. In this regard, the National Police Agency's National Investigation Headquarters held an unscheduled meeting and actively refuted it, what was it about?

[Reporter]
That's right. The National Investigation Headquarters of the police calls itself a briefing today and emphasizes that it is deeply regrettable in this regard. There will be many cases of whether the prosecution is lying or the counterintelligence agent is lying, but the police stressed that there is no such fact. On the day of martial law, he acknowledged that he was asked to guide 10 detectives by counterintelligence agents. However, the 10 detectives who went to the scene said they had no perception of arresting someone and did not take handcuffs with them. At that time, more than 60 detectives gathered in front of the hydrogen car charging station of the National Assembly, and this is true, but he explained that he went after hearing that the National Assembly wall was about to collapse, not to arrest anyone. The prosecution raided officials of the National Investigation Headquarters, saying that the police supported violent detectives in the arrest group for the arrest of major politicians from the counterintelligence command. The mobile phones of Woo Jong-soo, head of the National Investigation Division, and others have been confiscated. Woo Jong-soo, head of the National Investigation Division, also filed a quasi-appeal with the court to cancel the search and seizure warrant.

[Anchor]
Let's look at the prosecution's investigation. The prosecution plotted martial law as a human being. You're summoning former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, who is suspected of this?

[Reporter]
That's right. He was the one who led the first and second hamburger store meetings. The prosecution investigated the suspect's identity this afternoon on charges of executing a rebellion against former commander Roh. The details of the martial law plot against former commander Roh and the notebook came out. We plan to investigate the specific meaning of the contents in the notebook and check what specific role we played at the time of martial law. This is the first full-fledged investigation into former commander Roh, as the prosecution only carried out the process of confirming personal information immediately after being sent the day before yesterday. As mentioned earlier, former commander Roh is accused of plotting emergency martial law in advance through two hamburger store meetings on the 1st and 3rd. Earlier, the police found that at the meeting, they discussed ways to set up an unofficial organization under the joint martial law investigation headquarters, the investigation team, and take control of the central election committee.

[Anchor]
Also, isn't the Constitutional Court's preparation for impeachment hearings tomorrow? It's only a day away. It is known that he asked President Yoon to submit documents and several documents. By the way, is there any news that you have released so far?

[Reporter]
On the part of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol, we are consistent with no response. The Constitutional Court's preparation for the impeachment hearing is tomorrow, so today is a day away. However, we are not submitting any documents to the Constitutional Court until this afternoon. The Constitutional Public Information Officer also said in a briefing today that there was no document received from the respondent. And it is confirmed that the appointment of an agent has not yet been made. Constitutional Judge Kim Hyung-doo met with reporters on his way to work today and expressed his position on this. When asked if it could be replaced with a proclamation that asked Yoon Suk Yeol to submit, and submitted by the National Assembly, he answered that it was possible. The Constitutional Court plans to proceed with the first hearing preparation date as scheduled tomorrow. Usually, the deadline for preparing a pleading is a time to organize the issues and evidence of the case. If Yoon Suk Yeol's president does not attend, there is a possibility that the process will be idle.

[Anchor]
Investigation and judgment are speeding up, but President Yoon Suk Yeol has not yet appointed a lawyer and has not appointed an agent for the impeachment trial. Seok Dong-hyun, a lawyer for President Yoon, said the president will make a position soon, but he will post it on social media as early as today. There's also a claim like this.

[Reporter]
That's what happened. Seeing that it hasn't come out yet, people say that they won't release it today. On the 24th, President Yoon Suk Yeol announced his refusal to attend the second round of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and said he would come forward after Christmas. President Yoon Suk Yeol's position, which has remained silent while refusing to comply with the second summons, may come out as early as today. These stories have been circulated, but they haven't come out yet. There seems to be a possibility that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will soon come forward with a third request for attendance. The specific format of the presentation is not yet known. It is expected to include notification of the attendance of the investigative agency and the position of the Constitutional Court on the impeachment trial process. The shape is not even known yet. There was also a speculation that it would become a form of message through SNS. However, there seems to be a possibility of delaying more time and sending a message all at once ahead of the end of the year.

[Anchor]
Let's stop here. Reporter Baek Jong-kyu of the Ministry of Social Affairs and the investigation situation related to the emergency martial law incident were reviewed together. Thank you.