Park Eun-jung said, "尹, Korea's biggest risk...We need to get rid of the elements of anxiety by getting rid of them quickly."

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 27, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast member: Park Eun-jung, member of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party

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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): Let's start the third part of News Fighting. This party was the first to say impeachment. This is the Cho Kuk Innovation Party. Let's connect to Rep. Park Eun-jung's phone and listen to the story. How are you, Senator?

◇ Rep. Park Eun-jung of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party (hereinafter referred to as Park Eun-jung): Yes, hello.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, Prime Minister Han Deok-soo is also going to hold an impeachment vote by asking the ruling and opposition parties to agree on the appointment of a constitutional judge, but the Innovation Party insisted on an impeachment vote first. What kind of background is it?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Acting President Han Deok-soo is a very major person in charge of this civil war. And it was the subject of investigation. It's the same even now. So the position was that the president's authority should not be acting on behalf of him. Acting President Han Deok-soo insisted on the agreement between the ruling and opposition parties without appointing a constitutional judge. The Constitutional Court judges are the responsibility of the National Assembly, which was agreed upon and recommended by the ruling and opposition parties. Therefore, the act of acting Han Deok-soo refusing to appoint a constitutional judge now can be seen as a reason for impeachment in itself.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: But if the parts you just mentioned are to be decided, it's also different whether the quorum of the vote is 151 or 200 seats. Should it be viewed as equivalent to the president or not? There are also areas where standards change with the exercise of veto or the appointment of constitutional judges. How should I organize it?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, the acting president is acting only as an acting prime minister. So it's like maintaining your position as prime minister. And since impeachment is about temporary people, it is correct to believe that the quorum of impeachment decisions should be applied based on the members of the State Council rather than the president. Therefore, it is correct that the impeachment should proceed with the approval of the majority of the National Assembly.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: There is also an opinion that the Yes Legislative Investigation Office should follow the president, and I expanded it a little bit. Previously, it was a matter of time when he was a State Council member. When a criminal offense or impeachment occurred, it was 151 seats, but it was expanded. When it comes to this part, how should I say it? I think we're in a position where the discussion is a little more open. Can the ruling and opposition parties reach an agreement?

◇ Park Eun-jung: The National Assembly's Legislative Investigation Office is talking about the quorum of the majority of lawyers' opinions by the majority of the National Assembly. However, it seems to have recently reflected that there are other opinions. Therefore, the majority opinion of scholars now is that a majority vote on impeachment is possible. There seem to be some other scholars recently.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Acting President Han Deok-soo also said earlier that he was accused of rebellion when he was prime minister, and Kim Yong-hyun's lawyer announced his position yesterday, saying, "I reported it to the prime minister first," but Han Deok-soo said, "I have not been reported in advance and have not discussed it." They're saying they'll take legal action, and there's an explanation again, saying, "I just reported it right before the meeting." How do you interpret this?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Under the martial law, the acting president Han Deok-soo is required to propose martial law to the then prime minister. So, from former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's point of view, I think he talked about it yesterday to the effect that he followed the law. However, the head of the court administration of the Supreme Court also came to the National Assembly to say that this emergency martial law itself is unconstitutional. Then, if you attend a Cabinet meeting on this unconstitutional emergency martial law and civil war and if martial law is proposed, acting Han Deok-soo itself will be subject to investigation as a very important criminal of civil war.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, but isn't there two reasons for impeachment in the impeachment bill now, after this impeachment as prime minister and the impeachment of the acting president? I'm asking because I think this is fueling the controversy over the quorum of decisions.

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, I understand that there is such an opinion. There are opinions that only the reasons for impeachment should be included during the prime minister's time, and that the quorum of decisions should be expanded if the period of acting authority is included, but as I said earlier, the prime minister should apply the quorum of impeachment decisions in accordance with the prime minister because he is acting only on behalf of the prime minister.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it is very unstable because acting president Han Deok-soo goes to another acting system after he is impeached if the impeachment motion is voted on. Foreign media also have some concerns. There are also reports like this. What is your position?

◇ Park Eun-jung: The biggest risk to Korea right now is the impeached president, who is under investigation for a rebellion. But I think the only thing that removes the anxiety is the president's status, that is, making a quick decision on the president's dismissal. That's why the impeachment trial needs to proceed quickly, and I think that's why the Constitutional Court is appointed quickly to proceed with the hearing as a whole, stabilizing the state of affairs and removing the elements of economic instability.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: You said that the anxiety factor is to finish this impeachment quickly, but we also have Kim Jae-won, former Supreme Council member of the People's Power, and from the People's Power, the impeachment trial of the Constitutional Court could be nullified. The enforcement of the appointment of three people can also raise a problem, and it can also be raised later that it is considered to have been served, that is, served, in the six-person system. Follow the procedures. ’ This is the position. What do you think?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, you're saying that starting with the floor leader of the People's Power. I think such a statement itself ignores the Constitution and the Constitutional Court Act. The Constitutional Court is required to apply the Criminal Procedure Act and the Civil Procedure Act mutatis mutandis to the provisions on the consideration of service in the law, so the Constitutional Court is proceeding now in accordance with that law. And I don't know in what context the statement that the impeachment trial could be nullified came out, but I think it's a statement that ignores the Constitution, ignoring the right to recommend the constitutional body of the National Assembly. Then I would like to ask if the power of the people is such a political force that ignores the Constitution.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: If there is a problem with the preliminary procedure, the results cannot be accepted. I think that's what it's about.

◇ Park Eun-jung: There can be no problem with the procedure, and the Constitutional Court is proceeding with the procedure according to the Constitutional Court Act and the Constitution. And the National Assembly's recommendation of the Constitutional Judge was smoothly agreed upon by the ruling and opposition parties. And we need to appoint this judge. So it's not that there's any discretion, but I know that no president has ever made an appointment. Then, the reason for impeachment could be the acting president who does not make the necessary regulations.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, we are breaking news, and there are reports that President Yoon Suk Yeol will appoint a legal representative and participate in the impeachment proceedings. Let me ask you something about the civil war investigation. Even though the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the prosecution are ahead of the investigation, officials of the People's Power are talking about whether the investigation is the scope of the investigation. 'Tidy it up. I said, "Which agency is exactly investigating the allegations of rebellion?" and asked, "Isn't it possible to do it through the special prosecution law?" And it's blocked and explained like this. Is there an alternative for the opposition party?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, first of all, the prosecution's authority to investigate rebellion was intended to be done through the enforcement ordinance, but there may be controversy that the enforcement ordinance itself is unconstitutional because it is beyond the scope entrusted by the Prosecutors' Office Act. And as far as I know, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the authority to investigate under the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit Act. What was recognized by law is the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. So I asked for a transfer, and the prosecution's case against President Yoon Suk Yeol became a transfer. It is correct that the case is transferred to the special prosecutor when the investigation is carried out by forming a cooperative headquarters at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the special prosecutor is launched.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, in fact, it's a legal part of this situation, so there are parts that ordinary people don't know well about, so I think we'll ask in more detail. Looking at the situations that are now revealed through the investigation, Roh Sang-won, although the allegations have yet to be accurately proven and the statements have not been made through evidence and various reinforcement investigations. The contents of Roh Sang-won's notebook and various situations continue to raise the question, saying, "This is a very important issue for the opposition." What do you think?

◇ Park Eun-jung: In the case of former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, it's actually secret. I'm a civilian. Evidence is emerging that civilians have mobilized the military and played an important role in emergency martial law. And in the case of Roh Sang-won, there are media reports that he is close to those related to the martial law documents of the president of Park Geun Hye in the past. However, I think the investigation into Roh Sang-won is a very important port in relation to the civil war, and that part can be expanded to a part where the government manipulation and secretaries intervene, apart from the investigation of the civil war.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyers are claiming that Roh Sang-won's notebook is "extremely private and the minister and the president have nothing to do with it," and during the investigation process, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun told people around him, "What Roh said is my order," was reported in the JoongAng Ilbo. The statements are different and keep changing. In fact, you were also a prosecutor in an investigative agency, but in this case, how should you judge it?

◇ Park Eun-jung: You said your statements are mixed right now, but the truth is that these important military generals came to the National Assembly right after this incident and testified directly. If you take an oath, the statements, the testimonies, are considered very credible. But most of the testimonies point to a lot, and there are direct instructions from President Yoon Suk Yeol. Then, it seems that it is correct to construct facts based on the testimony of the National Assembly regarding this unconstitutional emergency martial law investigation and civil war investigation. And wasn't it announced yesterday that former Minister Kim Yong-hyun himself deleted or involved in the decree?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Delete the curfew.

◇ [Park Eun-jung] Yes, that's right. Then, if the president's direct involvement in the declaration of this unconstitutional emergency decree came out as evidence, I think it's very direct evidence of the rebellion.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the president is currently under investigation for the head of the alleged rebellion, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is the third to attend the investigation agency. In fact, it is known to be the last ultimatum, but the prevailing view is that he will not attend the investigation. They say they will focus on the impeachment trial.

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, that's probably the way it is expected. At the time of former President Park Geun Hye's impeachment, the impeachment decision said, "Refusing the special prosecution or prosecution investigation has no will to protect the Constitution. So it's an inevitable situation for impeachment. It has been decided that it is a grave violation of the law that cannot be tolerated from the perspective of betraying the trust of the people and protecting the Constitution. And to prioritize impeachment and to investigate later is a situation that can't be done selectively. Since the two are the same charges, it is correct that the impeachment proceedings proceed as the investigation proceeds.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the investigation is the investigation, and the impeachment process is the impeachment process. There are many things to talk about right now, but let's move on to the former representative of the country. Before we talk about politics. I said, "I'll start anew on the day when I find freedom again through the prison and the west." The party leader actually lost his seat and is now in custody. How's the party's atmosphere?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party was a party that had been scheduled to hold the post of former leader Cho Kuk since the foundation of the party. So the number of lawmakers remains unchanged. The Cho Kuk Innovation Party is going with all its might for the early end of the prosecution dictatorship in Yoon Suk Yeol, prosecution reform, and advanced countries in the social circle that we promised at the beginning. So, even after the imprisonment of the former representative of the country, the people also give more support. So we will go forward to the people without wavering. That's what I'm saying.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Succession of proportional representation should be prohibited in the event of loss of parliamentary seats. In this way, the power of the people is calling the name of this law like this. I said, "Anti-Motherland Act". What do you think about this part?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, I know that in the past, we have made some efforts to revise such legislation, and I know that the Constitutional Court has ruled that part unconstitutional. As a result, I understand that it is unconstitutional to reduce the number of seats in defiance of the political expression supported by the people so that the party can be allocated proportional representation seats. So I don't think the law itself will proceed because it is unconstitutional. And this whole process, in which Cho Kuk was investigated and tried, has nevertheless been meaningful in the last general election of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, when comparing the prosecutor general's harsh investigation into a family with the current form of state affairs Yoon Suk Yeol. That's what I think.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Finally, the ruling and opposition parties agree on the appointment of the acting president as a constitutional judge. In fact, the ruling and opposition parties are unable to talk, but the People's Power continues to talk about Lee Jae-myung on all these issues, such as "Avoiding Representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk" or "Why don't you point out that Representative Lee Jae-myung has delayed the trial?" I wonder what the Cho Kuk Innovation Party's position is.

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, right now, suppressing the civil war and dealing with the civil war is actually a situation where we have to get out of this situation that is close to a national crisis quickly. So the investigation and trial of the opposition leader will proceed as it is, but the most important thing we need to overcome now is to quickly overcome the civil war and finish the impeachment and investigation process against President Yoon Suk Yeol quickly. I think we should focus on that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, finally, we told you this as a breaking news earlier. President Yoon said he would attend the impeachment hearing preparation day after presenting his appointment today, what do you expect? What kind of atmosphere will it be?

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, as far as I know, a lawyer can attend the hearing on the preparation date. In the meantime, the Constitutional Court was planning to proceed with the hearing preparation date. Since the deadline for preparing a pleading is rather for the respondent, it is correct to come in and cooperate with the procedure. And you're the judges of the Constitutional Court. He was a judge and President Yoon Suk Yeol seems to be doing something outside, but former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, judges, and judges don't like to do public opinion outside. Rather, I think it will work against the impeachment trial. I think the last thing as a minimum public official is to cooperate faithfully and do so on the preparation date for the pleading.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It is the last time as a public official to faithfully participate in the hearing date. With this, we will stop here today. Next time, we'll connect and listen to you. Thank you for talking with me today.

◇ Park Eun-jung: Yes, thank you.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was Park Eun-jung of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party.