[Taking care of the situation] The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, again, "Empty-handed"...Would it be different for the second arrest warrant?

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■ Appearance: Kim Geun-sik, former head of the People's Power Vision Strategy Office, Rep. Bok Ki-wang of the Democratic Party of Korea

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[Anchor]
A political commentary with a living angle, starting at the stroke of the hour. We have the two of you here again today. Kim Geun-sik, former head of the National Power Vision Strategy Office, and Bok Ki-wang, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea. Welcome. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it ended up empty-handed again this time. Let's start the conversation after watching the related video.

We will continue to lead the investigation, so only the police should go and arrest them. It was a notification ceremony of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit without prior consultation. There are criticisms that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit handed it over to the police when the police are in charge of the investigation.

[Keunsik Kim]
I think this is a very symbolic case of the incompetence and inexperience of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. It was on the screen.Ma started with the intention that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which was created during the Moon Jae In government, would break the prosecution's monopoly on prosecution. However, after many twists and turns, it was actually made a little bit of a fly, so there were many vague grounds, systems, and regulations. And in actual performance, there hasn't been a single indictment and conviction by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in the past four years, hasn't it? And I've filed five arrest warrants.Ma was all rejected. So I don't really know. If the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was created because it needed it, it should have had the ability and ability to work properly and produce actual results. What has not been done has been the reality of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit so far. As they were competing in the investigation into the alleged rebellion, they were transferred to the police and the prosecution and said they would do everything, but they liked to play the media and played the media a lot, but they couldn't execute them even after obtaining an arrest warrant, so they are now being criticized by both the ruling party and the opposition party.

They've re-applied an arrest warrant.We'll have to see if the warrant will be dropped or not.Even if I fall, I believe in the capabilities of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit even now, and I don't think it's easy for the people to believe that the warrant falls back and re-enforces it. The collision
might be larger. I think it would be better to hand it over to the police now.

[Anchor]
It is said that the inside of the police was bubbling. However, the police are also in a position not to execute arrest warrants independently. In fact, at the beginning of the investigation, they rushed to investigate each other, but why is everyone stepping out now? Rather than taking out

[Rebellion King]

, if you hand over the investigation to the police again, it will all go back to the beginning. Then, the prosecution, the police, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit must start with a debate about who each has the right to investigate, so there is no reason for the police to take responsibility for these various controversies. And I was agonizing over the request from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to have a concubine in the first place, and I ordered all the concubines. If that happens, no one can monopolize the thread and share it with each other, but the police seem to have decided that there is no reason to use it alone. The airlift that sparked this debate has nothing to say even if it has ten mouths. The actual size of the airlift is too small.

Since there are fewer prosecutors than the small Goyang branch, even if there are certain limitations, the head of the airborne department Oh Dong-woon and the deputy head of the airborne department should have gone to the site and conducted the on-site command. So I think yesterday's decision to hand it over to the police was a misjudgment that really lowered the public's trust in the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and now that it has been restored to its original state, the Korean people expect to get a warrant and show them how the chief or deputy director directs the arrest process on the spot next time, and only then can the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit survive.

[Anchor]
Yesterday, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit re-claimed the warrant. I extended the deadline, but the professor predicted earlier that I would not be good at the second execution. However, there were criticisms that I made too much rumors during the first execution. As he announced the deadline for the warrant, some criticized that he gave President Yoon this message, saying that he only had to wait until the 6th. Maybe that's why he said he wouldn't reveal the deadline for the warrant this time.

[Keunsik Kim]
So if the warrant is re-requested and the warrant is issued again, the deadline will be kept secret now, and it will be private. But it seems to be a secondary problem. If the warrant is issued again, it is actually problematic to reject the warrant itself because it is a warrant issued by a court judge in accordance with legal procedures in the Korean judicial system. Therefore, it is an act of degrading the national dignity of the Republic of Korea to protest against the execution of legitimate warrants by the President or the President of Yoon Suk Yeol by mobilizing security personnel. Nevertheless, that's exactly what gave me an excuse. He gave an excuse that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the authority to investigate the crime of rebellion.

As a result, the warrant issued by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will not comply with the request. So in order to get rid of such a fundamental excuse, in order to make it neat, the police have only the authority to investigate rebellion after adjusting the investigation authority of the prosecution and police. That's why the special team of the National Police Agency has been doing a good job of investigating so far. To what extent the National Police Agency was good at arresting and arresting the incumbent head of its police organization, Cho Ji-ho. Because I worked so hard with such determination, I don't know what kind of incident will happen if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit decides to execute the arrest warrant again and whether it will be able to carry out the execution properly. In order to clear up the controversy in the first place and not oppose it from the president, I handed it over to the National Defense Agency even if it took some time, and if I have to request an arrest warrant later, the prosecutor has the authority to request a warrant through the prosecution, so wouldn't it be right for me to do so? Even if it takes time, I think it's right to go the right way.

[Anchor]
Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, said the professor that it is better to transfer to the police because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the right to investigate rebellion. I told the police to transfer all of them, so would President Yoon cooperate?

[Keunsik Kim]
We have to cooperate. The president promises to protect the constitution when he takes the oath of office. I'm the general manager of the rule of law. Because the Republic of Korea is a rule of law. Then, the rule of law is the principle of warrantism that can arrest a person by issuing a warrant. That's why no one can reject a court-issued warrant because it's equal before the law. That's why I don't think President Yoon Suk Yeol will resist that hard if the National Police Agency investigates and requests a warrant while the controversy over the right to investigate the rebellion is over.

[Anchor]
Earlier, the lawmaker said that Director Oh Dong-woon of Airborne should step up in person, but Director Oh Dong-woon of Airborne asked reporters on his way to work today, but he continued to be silent. However, he will attend a pending questionnaire from the Judiciary Committee this afternoon. What will be mentioned?

[Return King]
Well, there is a high possibility of making excuses with the limitations of the airborne organization's manpower or lack of judgment or stories, but the ruling and opposition lawmakers have different angles, but I think it will be difficult to escape criticism. First of all, the part that I asked to hand over to the police a while ago is to start the controversy from the ground up, so to do so means to continue to slow down the investigation. There is only one operation now, either on the Yoon Suk Yeol's side or on the people's side. As for illegal martial law and unconstitutional martial law, the people's power is recognized except for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. Then in the end, I come to the conclusion of something. However, it means to prolong the period of controversy as long as possible to reduce the political damage that the people can receive. There are small judgments in such a process, and in the process, I think it is one direction to prolong the debate about where the current investigative power is. I've put all the barbed wire in the presidential office right now. What's this? The legal authority and authority given to the president. The barbed wire was put on to prevent him from catching it like he was serving his own soldiers. In order to enforce the law, someone needs to cut off the barbed wire, and injuries will occur while cutting it. Is this something that should be done between state agencies? Because of a single person's wrong judgment and the current passport that cannot point out this, all of the Republic of Korea are in a really shameful situation right now.

[Anchor]
Let's wait and see what will be said in today's parliamentary investigation. The opposition party, which originally insisted on creating an airlift in the airlift's chaotic moves, is also raising voices about the uselessness of the airlift. There are mixed voices. Let's listen to it first.

Now, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is being criticized by both the ruling and opposition parties, and Rep. Park Beom-gye, who created the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit himself, is in the position that he should give another chance.

[Keunsik Kim]
Former Minister Park Beom-gye has no choice but to do that. He was the person who took the lead in creating the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit during the Moon Jae In government and was actually the Minister of Justice at the time. Therefore, I don't think I can say that because talking about the existence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit itself again and saying that I will get rid of it is like reversing my own story. The incompetence and incompetence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit have been fully revealed this time to the extent that the main opposition party, the Cho Kuk Innovation Party and the Democratic Party, even talked about the existence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, so I was surprised to see that when the arrest warrant was re-requested and issued, as Rep. Bok Ki-wang said earlier, he walked down in five and a half hours during the execution of the arrest warrant on the 3rd. If you wanted to do that, you shouldn't have done it, or if you should have seen the conclusion, but didn't you see pictures that looked like you were walking down with a smile on your feet? In order to do that, what is the execution of public power? And public opinion turned around.

In that sense, the president is also equal before the law as a citizen of the Republic of Korea, so if an arrest warrant was issued by due process as a suspect who should be investigated for rebellion charges, the state agency that executes it should be strict. In that respect, I personally think it's right to send it to the national script. If I really get another issuance and say I'll do it, I really hope it won't be a topic of interest and ridicule from all over the world this time. How disgraceful would it be to see another clash or a comeback when Korea, the world's 10th largest economy, is no longer going to arrest an incumbent president? I think we really need to watch it again.

[Anchor]
Rep. Park Beom-gye of the Democratic Party said, "We should give another chance," but Rep. Park Eun-jung of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party should consider whether to survive or not. Director of Airborne Oh Dong-woon said that we have to walk a line. I think there will be talk of resignation and impeachment again today. There was even an expectation that the ruling and opposition parties would reach an agreement for the first time in a long time.

[Return King]
They're going to attack from various directions. Basically, however, the opposition's voice is a message to take responsibility and solve this problem. What authority do you have on the power side of the people? I think the issuance of the warrant itself is illegal, taking the shape of not recognizing the national system while doing this, and attacking with Senior Superintendent of Public Offenses Oh Dong-woon at the center of it. As I said earlier, when I first went to execute an arrest warrant, I walked lethargic, and now I am the image of the Republic of Korea. This is the image of the public authority of the Republic of Korea. In the past, we shot and killed Baek Nam-ki, a farmer who asked us to raise the price of rice at the farmers' assembly.

And 30 years ago, student Lee Han-yeol, who demanded and protested for a direct presidential election, killed him with tear gas. And several times, the deaths of our ordinary citizens and powerless people by public power continued. However, those who are the president and have power to protect the president, and the public power of the Republic of Korea that cannot touch them. I think the only opportunity to restore the public power that has fallen on this land is in the hands of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in the execution of the next second warrant. It is not just a matter of the existence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but I think it will be a gauge of whether or not the public power is alive from the standpoint of the public power that protects democracy in the Republic of Korea.

[Anchor]
Oh Dong-woon, the head of the airborne department, pointed out that his shoulders are heavy. During the execution of the warrant, the fact that acting authority Choi Sang-mok did not respond to the request for cooperation in the arrest warrant by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was also controversial. Yesterday, he said that the Democratic Party of Korea's representative Lee Jae-myung and acting president Choi Sang-mok should be held responsible for the act of a second rebellion. Let's hear the floor leader Kwon Sung-dong's remarks this morning.

[Anchor]
It seems that Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, has become the acting leader Choi Sang-mok. Are you reconsidering the impeachment card of Acting President Choi?

[Return King]
No, I organized that last time. Just because you don't fiddle with the impeachment card doesn't mean you can't point out your mistakes, right? Of course, accusations and such things continue.

[Anchor]
I heard they're considering filing a complaint for dereliction of duty.

[Return King]
That's right. That's because I'm telling you to take legal responsibility. The reason why this was triggered was that the presidential office's security office illegally blocked the execution of the warrant. Then what the acting authority should do is that the security agency should cooperate with the legal process, and ask for cooperation. But instead of doing this, the president's office is currently trying to execute the warrant, but I'm nervous, so I asked for more police personnel. In this regard, I was asking you to actively consider increasing the number of police and sending them to the presidential office. In the end, this is the same as the acting president promoting illegality. That's why representative Lee Jae-myung criticized that the acting authority is not protecting order, but destroying order. So I don't just talk about this process and just criticize it again, so the criticism goes to impeachment? I think this is creating a distance for the other person to criticize, but I'm not touching the impeachment card right now.If we go too far, we can always do it.

[Anchor]
He said he can do it anytime, but not now. However, there is a saying that Choi did not respond to the request for cooperation in the arrest warrant from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit Act because of Article 3, Paragraph 3 of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit Act. It would be nice if you could show me the graphic when it's ready.

[Keunsik Kim]
That's Article 3, Paragraph 3 of the Corruption Investigations Unit Act, which means that the president or the presidential secretariat should not make any demands regarding the affairs of the Corruption Investigations Unit or the prosecution of the Corruption Investigations Unit. So, isn't that the president's symbol of power because it was originally made possible to conduct a separate autonomous investigation into high-ranking officials as an autonomous organization separate from the prosecution when creating the Corruption Investigations Unit Act? Article 3 states that the President and the President's Office should not be involved in the affairs of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. So I think the story that acting Choi Sang-mok was not involved with that is a story that is reversed. I think that the presidential office should not intervene in the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and what the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit asked for from Acting Chief Minister Choi Sang-mok is a reverse story, so it doesn't make sense to talk about that part. As Representative Bok said now, I can understand representative Lee Jae-myung's saying that acting representative Choi Sang-mok has a problem, from the perspective of the Democratic Party. But earlier, CEO Lee Jae-myung made a public statement, and the level of his remarks is very high. It's an act of destruction of civil war.

It's a second act of destruction of order, so from the people's point of view, what did Acting Chief Minister Choi Sang-mok do wrong to tell them again such as the act of sympathizing with them, the act of destruction of order, and the act of destruction of order. Since we're talking about it day by day, doesn't Lee Jae-myung know all about this schedule that he needs to hold an early presidential election because of his judicial risk so that he can become a presidential candidate before his judicial risk is confirmed? So I can't help but suspect that I'm pushing you. That's why the Democratic Party is unable to bring up impeachment because of the burden. However, he said he would not impeach him, but he would file a complaint. I'm not sure what this means. If you're not going to impeach, you're not going to file a complaint. Accusation is a story about punishment because you legally committed a criminal act. Aren't you asking for disciplinary action because impeachment also has a problem? That's why the Democratic Party is in limbo. That's why the Democratic Party of Korea is so impatient to threaten the acting chief Choi Sang-mok for not cooperating with the arrest and execution of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. The same goes for the impeachment of acting Han Deok-soo, and when he pushes for the appointment of three constitutional judges. The same goes for talking about impeachment against the current acting chief. Because I get impatient, the 12.3 martial law act of President Yoon Suk Yeol is diluted, because this creates antipathy.

So for me, the Democratic Party's impatience, it's only one thing. Since no one knows this because it is only running in the early presidential election to resolve judicial risks for Lee Jae-myung's presidential bid, I would say that the Democratic Party's impatience is rather adding to the confusion in the face of impeachment after martial law.

[Anchor]
Let's talk more about the presidential clock in a little while.

[Return King]
To tell you about that, first of all, to say that you didn't cooperate because of Article 3, Paragraph 3 of the Corruption Investigations Unit Act doesn't mean that the people are stupid or stupid. It's upside down. As you said earlier, the presidential office cannot ask the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to do this or that. However, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has to comply with the order that the president's office should cooperate with law enforcement for law enforcement, but they also play with the law. I'm showing you that I'm repeating those things over and over again.

And if it's because of representative Lee Jae-myung, is it because of representative Lee Jae-myung that martial law has become because of representative Lee Jae-myung, and the country is also confused because of representative Lee Jae-myung, and is everyone all because of him? It's not. Martial law was done by the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. He did it himself. Then, because of the problem with it, if impeachment continues now and this continues now, we have to finish it quickly. Then, the Republic of Korea doesn't know that they can't go quickly because they are afraid of becoming the president of Lee Jae-myung. In other words, don't you just have to keep the administration from being taken away by the Democratic Party? So I think that solving this problem now and talking about representative Lee Jae-myung can make a really right story and right argument in the power of the people when separated.

[Keunsik Kim]
So, punishment for martial law and hearing impeachment because impeachment was passed, and this is all in accordance with the clock of the Constitutional Court. Also, because there is a judicial system, we go according to the investigation, prosecution, and trial system. That's why I'm telling you that Yoon Suk Yeol is Yoon Suk Yeol and Lee Jae-myung is Lee Jae-myung. So, the hearing on the punishment of President Yoon Suk Yeol for martial law and the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol for martial law is supposed to roll well without the Democratic Party rushing, impatient, anxious, or anxious, so just because it doesn't go according to its own timetable, it tells you not to impeach the prime minister, impeach the acting president, clean the airlift, and do this, so the judiciary's clock rolls as it is. You were found guilty in the first trial of the Public Official Election Act. Then, the 2nd and 3rd trials are waiting. The clock is rolling.

So, from the public's point of view, the Yoon Suk Yeol can go to the Constitutional Court's time zone according to Yoon Seok-yeol. Representative Lee Jae-myung is supposed to roll the clock of the second trial and the third trial as representative Lee Jae-myung. So, the Democratic Party's obsession with a certain degree of early presidential election on it becomes a factor that makes the hearing of the Constitutional Court's trial unclear to the public. It's the same for our sugar, and I think so too. If our party also tries to slow this down, the people know what it's up to. So let's leave it all to the Constitutional Court and the investigative agencies. And the ruling party and the opposition party should focus on stabilizing state affairs. I think stabilizing state affairs is the first priority.

[Anchor]
While predicting how the second arrest warrant will be executed, various stories came out. Let's talk about the security service controversy for a moment. According to the police, the bodyguard even mobilized soldiers at the time of the first execution of the warrant, but the bodyguard denied it. Then, if the security service blocks the second execution, I will enforce it or even arrest the current criminal. How do the employees of the security service feel now?

[Return King]
It's like dying. They're civil servants. Don't you have to get a pension when you retire? It's a government employee's salary. However, if you are arrested as a current offender, you are likely to be deprived of your position as a public official, and then you have to be punished because you are a person who has been involved in obstructing the execution of special public affairs. That's why it's so delicious. Also, because the security service has a strong command system, it is difficult to act out of the command system alone. President Yoon Suk Yeol, what a coward. Why do you hide behind young people and only hurt young people? If the head of the security department Park Jong-joon and the deputy head of the department stand at the front and block them, you can drag them. Drag them and the rest will be naturally dissolved. However, as they did with barbed wire, there is a high possibility that young security agents and executives such as the chief of security and the deputy chief of security are hiding behind them, so I think I have no choice but to send a police commando and arrest some of them.

[Anchor]
The opposition party even talked about the dissolution of the security office.

[Return King]
The Security Service Bill is being proposed. This has been repeated several times, but there is a security bureau within the police, and among the current police security affairs, the prime minister, ministers, and foreign guests are all in charge of security. The police are responsible for the security of the chairman of the National Assembly and key domestic protocol officials, and it is a bill that calls for unifying this and unifying it so that the president also does the same. Since most of them operate like that in foreign countries, we are asking for a revision of the law. I would like to say that the people who are undermining the status of the security service themselves are the current security chief and the president.

[Anchor]
We've talked about the investigation and arrest for a long time. Let's go to the Constitutional Court for a while. The Democratic Party of Korea claims that it will remove the crime of rebellion from the impeachment trial, and of course, Democratic Worthing will not remove the crime of rebellion, but will remove the criminal judgment of the crime of rebellion from the Constitutional Court by leaving the contents of the crime of rebellion as they are. Anyway, because of this controversy, the ruling party is in a position to vote on the impeachment motion again if it is to do so. But is this realistically possible?

[Keunsik Kim]
There are no changes enough to make a re-decision, I think.

[Return King]
I don't have much to say because it's so common sense.

[Keunsik Kim]
When the Democratic Party of Korea issued a reason for the impeachment, the criminal law clause, which calls for rebellion, was deleted, saying that the act related to the criminal act itself remained the same and asked to judge it. So there are two things about this, right? Impeachment is disciplinary. I'm asking the Constitutional Court to discipline me because a public official did this. The punishment for the crime is done in the judicial system when the crime is committed. That's why if you investigate, prosecute, and judge, you judge whether you are guilty or not and give a sentence, and you're going to be sentenced to several years in prison. So these two are separated. That's why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is investigating President Yoon on charges of rebellion. That's why the Constitutional Court is asking for an impeachment trial to be held sooner by removing the criminal law clause of the crime of rebellion, but I think the prosecution, the National Assembly Prosecution Service, can do it because the change of the indictment is meaningful.

However, given the timing, the incompetence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, various national divisions during the arrest warrant process, and the Democratic Party of Korea's wipeout of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the public has just claimed the crime of rebellion, and from the perspective of the Democratic Party of Korea, the people's power will be accused of rebellion, and the lawmakers of the people's power will be removed from the perspective of the Democratic Party of Korea. So the people are saying the crime of rebellion to save Lee Jae-myung, and now they're at a disadvantage. I'm being misunderstood like this. So for me, the Democratic Party of Korea's, don't be impatient with what I said earlier. I hope you will behave carefully, and if you do this, you should not do it at your disposal, Chung-rae, chairman of the judiciary committee. As the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, it is done from the standpoint of the National Assembly's prosecution. Then, there is a member of the Korean People's Power in the Judiciary Committee. Then, Chung Chung-rae, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, should have discussed at least the power of the people with a reasonable explanation. I think it's a problem because I don't even go through such a procedure.

[Anchor]
Professor Kim thinks that whether the criminal law for rebellion is in the impeachment motion or not, there would have been no significant impact on the outcome of the vote, right?

[Keunsik Kim]
That's right.

[Anchor]
Some ruling party lawmakers, however, predict that if it were not for this part in the impeachment motion, there would have been fewer lawmakers in favor of impeachment if it were not for the criminal law for rebellion. But there are also opinions against it. We will continue our conversation after hearing the opinion of Representative Cho Eung-cheon.

[Anchor]
The ruling party lawmakers who opposed the impeachment because they felt sorry for the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho because of the allegations of coordination of the party's floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's rebellion went into the impeachment motion would have voted more in favor of the impeachment motion if the crime of rebellion was excluded.

[Return King]
All different households can do it. The direction is different, but the angle of view is different, but various assumptions can be done, and I think the beginning of this story is to argue that the people should vote again in the end, but lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong is so brazen. As a member of the impeachment committee of the president of Park Geun Hye in the past, he is doing what he did when he was active. I reorganized this by taking advantage of the experience of impeaching the Park Geun Hye, which excluded all matters to be discussed in the criminal law such as coercion and bribery and organized only constitutional violations, but suddenly said strange things with this. You see the people as fools. Just as we interpreted the people as fools with Article 3, Paragraph 3 of the Corruption Investigations Unit Act earlier, this part is the same now. People's Power MPs who are applauding, oh yes, for this, are really stupid or revolting. You shall not do so.

And if such a common sense person like Professor Kim Geun-sik is the main leader of the people's power, I don't think Korean politics would have gone this far. I want to thank you so much.

[Anchor]
We are conducting a presentation in a warm atmosphere. Yesterday, the Constitutional Court held its first meeting under an eight-member system. The Constitutional Court has no stipulated provisions regarding the exclusion of the criminal law provisions for rebellion, so the court will judge it. Constitutional Court, what conclusion should we make on this?

[Keunsik Kim]
This is the same for me because the Constitutional Court is acting as the presiding judge. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong was also chairman of the Judiciary Committee in 2016, so he used the expression "change of indictment" when he changed bribery and coercion at that time while serving as the head of the prosecution. We are in a position to prosecute, but we change the indictment. The Criminal Procedure Act also has something about changing the indictment. We ask for punishment for the same charges, but we can amend or withdraw the applicable laws. So, in that regard, the prosecution is asking the prosecution to move the title of the law from the side of the prosecution and the side of the prosecution to revise it, so the premise must be allowed by the judge in the court. If the judge accepts this, the indictment will be changed, and if it doesn't work, the indictment will have to be rewritten. In that case, you have to re-decide. That's why I think the Constitutional Court should make a neutral and fair decision on the removal of the rebellion demanded by the chairman of the Democratic Party's judiciary committee because the Constitutional Court has the authority of the presiding judge.

[Anchor]
Let's wait for the Constitutional Court's judgment. Recently, as the political situation has become so complicated, public opinion is also changing little by little. Let's listen to the voices of the politicians.

[Anchor]
Representative Cho Jung-hoon of the People's Power said the same thing as Professor Kim said a while ago. It is because of the Democratic Party's impatience. As a result, I think they analyzed that the public's support rate for power is rising.

[Keunsik Kim]
Recent polls suggest some bias.The dry trend clearly shows the conservative camp rallying. I think there are many aspects, but the first one is that we don't like Yoon Suk Yeol, but we don't like Lee Jae-myung. So, in the process of imposing emergency martial law and passing impeachment, it was natural that support for President Yoon Suk Yeol and support for the power of the people fell.After a certain trend is formed, and after stabilization, when you think about what CEO Lee Jae-myung is, this problem is the same. Because I'm on trial and I don't know when and what will happen. And as the Democratic Party of Korea, which I mentioned, is rushing to the timetable only for representative Lee Jae-myung, I think the middle class is moving little by little in terms of encouraging confusion in state affairs rather than stabilizing state affairs. Secondly, rather than increasing the approval rating of the people's power, I think there is a sense of crisis among conservatives. I feel that the conservative class is moving to a passive support like this, saying, "We should have some support for the power of the people."

[Anchor]
We don't talk about regular and fragmentary surveys. Recently, some surveys have shown that President Yoon's approval rating is high, and the Democratic Party of Korea is in a position to file a complaint over the fairness of this approval rating.

[Return King]
When we look at the phrase of the investigation, it is said that there are articles that are advantageous for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol or the power of the people. Polls are different and different. There is a huge variation accordingly.

[Anchor]
Is there a charge like this originally?

[Return King]
It's a rare case. It's a very rare case. But in this case, there is a kind of intention to prolong the current state of chaos. In the current state of people's power, Lee Jae-myung should become president, so we can't see him become president. I'm just saying let's keep it like this. However, for many people, if this condition is maintained, if uncertainty is prolonged, the country will collapse. That's why it's the people's concern and sentiment to come to a conclusion quickly, and it's the same for everyone from business people to ordinary people. That's why the Democratic Party is in the direction of the Democratic Party to quickly eliminate this uncertainty. Then I'm going to go for a long time, thinking that the conclusion is in the Democratic Party's favor. However, the presidential election was followed by the settlement of the presidential impeachment phase due to martial law. If Representative Lee Jae-myung is not popular with the people, as you say, he shouldn't be the president, right? What are you worried about? So, if you say you worry about the country first, I would like to summarize by saying that the ruling and opposition parties can join forces to resolve the uncertainty of the country quickly, and then make a good candidate and be evaluated by the Korean people in the presidential election.

[Anchor]
You said that we should also present a good candidate for the power of the people. Former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min criticized that it was not right for the ruling party to go with the far-right in such a poll. In particular, there were voices of criticism against about 40 ruling party lawmakers who gathered in front of the residence yesterday. Inside, there seems to be a sense of crisis that it should not collapse as easily as impeachment under the past president of Park Geun Hye.

[Keunsik Kim]
I think 40 members of our party who said they would protect the president went to their official residence yesterday. I see it as a misleading act in two ways. First, they are all active members of the National Assembly. Then they're all constitutional institutions. Constitutional institutions are symbols of the rule of law. However, it is a conflict that is underway over the execution of a warrant normally issued by the court. Then, there is a question of how to explain if the constitutional institution, the National Assembly, appears to defend the president by saying that it will prevent the execution of arrest warrants to realize the rule of law by the Constitution.

Secondly, since President Yoon Suk Yeol voluntarily appeared, voluntarily responded to the request for summons of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and voluntarily said he would not avoid legal and political responsibility, he should do it, but isn't he not going out while continuing to sit-in? However, if you say you will defend and protect President Yoon Suk Yeol, you will have nothing to say about the suspicion that the people in the middle class are defending martial law. So, I think it's better to go to the National Assembly and take care of people's livelihoods by pointing out what the Democratic Party did wrong for stabilizing state affairs and pointing out that the Democratic Party of Korea is in a hurry to confuse state affairs, rather than preventing constitutional law enforcement by the National Assembly, as Yoo Seung Min said earlier.

[Anchor]
You pointed out that I should go to the National Assembly and take care of people's livelihoods. Finally, Rep. Yong Hye-in of the Basic Income Party demanded that ruling party lawmakers who flocked to Hannam-dong's official residence resign from the special parliamentary investigation committee.

[Return King]
Few members of the special committee voted in favor of the special committee. To that extent, those who are not interested in national support and wish not to do so are in the special committee, so they are not qualified, but there is a claim that lawmaker Yong Hye-in is also not qualified. That's why I warned you to wake up and do it right, and if you tell me to resign, I can't resign. There is a very high possibility that they will not participate in their meeting. Nevertheless, the National Assistance Committee will roll.

[Anchor]
We will keep you updated on the parliamentary investigation in the afternoon. So far, I have been with Kim Geun-sik, former head of the People's Power Vision Strategy Office, and Bok Ki-wang, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you both.