[Issue Plus] Tensions rise before the re-enforcement of arrest warrants...Acceptance of Park Jong-joon's resignation letter

■ Host: Lee Yeo-jin, anchor Jang Won-seok
■ Starring: Baek Jong-gyu, YTN Social Affairs Reporter, lawyer Lee Go-eun

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[Anchor]
Park Jong-joon, the former chief of security who attended the police earlier today, submitted his resignation amid an imminent second attempt to execute an arrest warrant for President Yoon.

Let's take a closer look at what variables will be in the execution of the arrest warrant with Baek Jong-kyu and lawyer Lee Go-eun of the Ministry of Social Affairs. Please come in.

Security Minister Park Jong-joon, who is known to have led the arrest of Yoon Suk Yeol's president, went to the third round of attendance today, defying expectations. I attended the police and even submitted my resignation. How did you like it?

{이고}In fact, I expected that there is a high possibility that I will not comply with today's attendance request. I really missed my expectations and attended the 3rd summons request. If you think about why, if you don't comply with the third request for attendance, the possibility of requesting an arrest warrant as well as an arrest warrant increases significantly. So I think it's my last chance and I think I attended today.

And even in the case of an arrest warrant, a warrant is requested if the request for attendance is virtually made up to three times and the request is not met. So, I think I was concerned about this part, and what I said when I refused to comply with the first round was that I said I would appoint a lawyer today or tomorrow to coordinate my attendance schedule with the police, so I think I was concerned about the fact that if what I said goes against that part, I could start a forced investigation.

And another thing is that I think Chief Park Jong-joon discussed with his lawyer that there is a high possibility of emergency arrest. Therefore, it lowers the possibility of an emergency arrest or forced investigation, and an arrest warrant is actually requested, so there is a very high possibility of a preliminary warrant, so I think they have responded to these requests for attendance and submitted a resignation letter to reduce the possibility of a claim in this part. And there was this controversy.

There were concerns that if you fail to attend until today, or if you are investigated today and no arrest warrant has been requested, you may be able to return to work tomorrow to prevent the execution of the arrest warrant, but I carefully guess that the submission of the resignation letter made it less likely that you will continue to participate in the crime, thereby lowering the possibility of a forced investigation.

[Anchor]
Former Deputy Chief Park Jong-joon told the police today that investigation procedures appropriate to his status as president are needed. What does this mean?

[Reporter]
As the lawyer explained earlier, various scenarios were expected inside and outside the police, such as refusing to comply with the investigation of Director Park Jong-joon, adjusting the attendance schedule by appointing a lawyer late, or responding to the third final request for attendance. In the end, Director Park chose to appoint a lawyer at the last minute to respond to the final request for attendance. Director Park said this. Investigation procedures appropriate to the current presidential status should proceed. He said that it is not the current procedure for executing arrest warrants, and that the president needs appropriate investigation procedures in accordance with the national dignity of Korea.

At the same time, when asked whether he would prevent a legally issued arrest warrant, he said, "There are many legal theories," and he was quiet. If you interpret this, it may mean that it is unacceptable for the president to be arrested and detained by investigative agencies. Therefore, some analysts say that he was trying to issue a message while attending that the execution of the second warrant against President Yoon was unfair.

[Anchor]
With former Deputy Chief Park resigning, Deputy Chief of Security Kim Sung-hoon is known to be acting as a representative for the vacancy. Isn't Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon also scheduled to appear at the police tomorrow? What do you think?

{이고}I think this part will be difficult. Because suddenly the director submitted his resignation letter and it was repaired, and suddenly the job became vacant. At the same time, Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon is supposed to act on behalf of him, so in the case of Deputy Director Kim, it is very difficult to respond to the request for attendance tomorrow. Because suddenly, I think there is a legitimate reason to refuse the request for attendance if I think that I should respond to the police station after reorganizing the command system anyway while acting as the director.

Therefore, it is questionable whether it is right to appoint such an acting chief as a suspect to the current charge of obstructing the execution of special public affairs, but there is a possibility that Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon will not comply with the request for attendance as the police demand has suddenly changed. Before I refuse, I guess I'll appoint a lawyer first tomorrow morning, then pass on this situation through the lawyer and adjust the attendance date again.

[Anchor]
Various police summonses are being conducted for the bodyguard, but anyways, the former bodyguard has been present at the police ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant for President Yoon, and this case has become a watershed moment. This kind of analysis is coming out, right?

[Reporter]
There is a prospect that the police may arrest Minister Park urgently and apply for an arrest warrant after investigating him in consideration of the seriousness of the matter. Then Chief Park Jong-joon submitted his resignation letter before the police summons today. Then, within six hours, this was known. The acting president repaired it right away. And Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security service, will take over as an acting president, and he will receive a third summons tomorrow. However, as you said, it is noteworthy whether you will comply with the third summons notice tomorrow.

If you attend, the head of the security service and the head of the security service, that is, the command line of the security service, will all be away. Then, ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant, the security service loses its power. For this reason, whether Park will be arrested urgently and Kim Sung-hoon will attend tomorrow could be an inflection point for the case ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant. There are also evaluations like this.

[Anchor]
Since Lee Kwang-woo, the head of the security headquarters, refused to comply with the police's second request for attendance today, the police asked the police to come out on the 13th and make the third request for attendance.

[Reporter]
Now, Lee Kwang-woo, head of the security headquarters, and Lee Jin-ha, head of the security headquarters, also asked the police to appear and asked them to come out for investigation. In the original scenario, I think the police set up a scenario in which they would arrest them first and do it together if they obtained an arrest warrant and executed it with an arrest warrant for President Yoon Suk Yeol. However, the police's warrant execution scenario seems to be a little twisted as Chief of Security Park Jong-joon appears today.

Therefore, some analysts say that Minister Park's response to the police summons today indirectly induced leniency for executives under the security service. Some analysts say that he laid the groundwork for taking all possibilities, including arrest, at a time when security officials were booked one after another and refused to comply with the summons. There is also an interpretation that if Minister Park and other security officers are all excluded from the scene, there will be a bigger setback in the execution of arrest warrants.

[Anchor]
Some predicted that they would neutralize each of the security officials and then execute the warrant against the president, so what will be the variable in the execution of the arrest warrant now?

{이고}In the execution of the arrest warrant for President Yoon Suk Yeol, it is very likely that the police expected him to refuse to attend today as the security chief suddenly appeared today. However, I think that Park Jong-joon's attendance today rather made it easier for me to execute the arrest warrant. The reason is that Chief Park Jong-joon spoke his position while attending today.

As the head of the security agency, I think he talked about not only defending himself but also defending his employees and his subordinates that the security agency was inevitable. As the head of the department attends the attendance, there is a high possibility that the head of the department is expected to be summoned one after another, and the possibility of forced investigations is also mentioned, so I think there is a high possibility that the defense logic of the security will be lost. If so, I think there will be a very high probability that this defense line will collapse when the arrest warrant is re-executed around next week.

[Anchor]
You said that the possibility of an emergency arrest has decreased since Park Jong-joon resigned today. What are the requirements for an emergency arrest?


[Igoeun]
You can understand that an emergency arrest is an urgent arrest without a warrant, so we are arresting you. If you look at the requirements, the requirements are a little tricky. It doesn't apply to all sins. There should be considerable reason to suspect that he has committed a serious crime of more than three years of capital punishment, life imprisonment or long-term imprisonment. And arrest should be urgent. In other words, when there is a great risk of running away and there is no time reason to get a warrant from a district court judge, the need for arrest is to destroy evidence, run away, or run away.

Also, if the police made an emergency arrest after an emergency arrest, they must obtain post-approval from the prosecutor. You will also have to decide whether to request an arrest warrant within 48 hours. The reason why I judge that the possibility of emergency arrest for former Chief Park Jong-joon has decreased a lot is that there is a part where you have to request an arrest warrant within 48 hours. Perhaps if I make a careful prediction, I don't think the investigation will be completed today. I think there is a very high possibility of further investigation.

In the end, what I want to confirm through former Chief Park Jong-joon's mouth is that it is necessary to check whether President Yoon Suk Yeol colluded with him in obstructing the execution of special public affairs and was an accomplice. Not only the director, but also the deputy director, the general manager, and the employees below, and the contents of the conspiracy should be checked by borrowing the words of former director Park Jong-joon. Since these parts will take a very long time, I think we will probably finish the first survey before tonight and adjust the schedule for the second survey. Therefore, I think the possibility of an emergency arrest is a little low because there are too many things to check for urgent arrest today, and it is practically difficult to request an arrest warrant within 48 hours.

[Anchor]
About eight hours have passed since Park Jong-joon, the former chief of security, appeared at the police, and when the chief of security responded to the police's summons, President Yoon protested. What are the contents?

[Reporter]
He stressed that it is a major hazard to the national security of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol. At the same time, he said that the current situation is to let those who do their jobs abandon their duties. He also said it was an abnormal act that he would not even care about national security. He also said that refusing to execute illegal arrest warrants and search for military secret places is a natural measure based on the rule of law and law. Rather, he said that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police are responsible for pushing ahead with the illegal execution of official duties, and this responsibility should be pointed out. In addition, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is accused of obstructing the execution of special public affairs for the execution of illegal warrants, so the prosecution told them to notify the schedule of the subpoena to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit as soon as possible.

[Anchor]
What do you think of this position? Is there a legal basis?

{이고}President Yoon Suk Yeol's side does not have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion. This is an illegal warrant and an illegal execution of a warrant because such an airborne organization has investigated and requested a warrant, and the court that has requested the warrant is also the Western District Court. Therefore, the prosecution insists that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit be investigated on various charges, such as obstruction of justice. However, I can certainly make this argument, but as a legal professional, I personally think that President Yoon Suk Yeol's argument lacks a little legal basis.

The reason is that the Western District Court has clear jurisdiction. Of course, in principle, it should be done to the Central District Court, but since the court that has jurisdiction over Hannam-dong's official residence is the Western District Court, it has clear jurisdiction. Also, not only the first, but the second, or the second, the warrant judge, was legally issued even though the warrant was changed once or twice, so trying to execute a legally issued warrant cannot be seen as an obstruction of justice. Therefore, I think the legal basis for this argument that the President of Yoon Suk Yeol is talking about is a little poor.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is emphasizing its willingness to execute arrest warrants every day. Kook Soo-bon even convened the head of the metropolitan area's investigation team today. Is there anything that seems to be imminent in re-enforcement of the warrant?

[Reporter]
In fact, it is difficult to predict that the execution of an arrest warrant is imminent. As the first attempt to execute the arrest warrant failed, it is certain that the police will increase their manpower. The commanders who will be deployed to the scene ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant were called today. The National Police Agency's National Police Agency said that the heads of the metropolitan area's investigation teams, including Seoul and Gyeonggi, should gather at the National Police Agency at 2 p.m. today. He is the head of the criminal maneuvering team of each investigation team. And they are known as commanders such as the head of the drug crime investigation. The National Defense Agency seems to be sharing the specific plan for the execution of the second arrest warrant and discussing its feasibility and legal problems. Yesterday, he sent an official letter containing the "Investigation Mobilization Order" to the metropolitan area's regional investigation team and the security investigation team.

The official letter was to prepare for the execution of President Yoon's arrest warrant. If you look at how many people there are, it is expected that there will be about 1,000 people and about 1,000 criminal mobilization units. So, there is a possibility that about 1,000 people from the metropolitan area alone can gather. However, in this official letter, the exact date and time. The size of the mobilization was not specified.

[Anchor]
The second warrant, which was reissued by the court on the 7th, has been closed to the public, so we don't know exactly.Some say it's 2 weeks and 3 weeks, so do you think this is enough?

{이고}I think the current situation should be sorted out in that. As you know, when issuing an arrest warrant, the validity period is usually about 7 days. When applying for an expiration date of more than 7 days, you must state the reason for it and the judge must understand that. But for now, it's clear that it's more than a week, but then there's talk about whether it's two or three weeks. However, since this cannot be prolonged, I think the second arrest warrant for two or three weeks should be executed within that expiration date and the current situation should be settled.

[Anchor]
When do you think is the most likely time?

{이고}It may be a little difficult to guess this part. It could be as early as this weekend, but I think it's likely to be sometime next week. The reason is that most of the suspects related to the security service have to be summoned next week. So, even in the case of the deputy manager scheduled for tomorrow, as I said earlier, even if he cannot attend tomorrow inevitably due to his current acting, he must attend next week.

In addition, it is highly likely that the head of the headquarters or employees related to various security agencies will appear next week, and the investigation of Director Park Jong-joon will be completed to some extent by next week, so I carefully guess that there is a high possibility that the arrest warrant will be executed next week.

[Anchor]
An official from the National Assembly said that they would not rule out night execution this time, but what do you think of the possibility?

{이고}Of course, it can be executed at night. It is possible if it is indicated that it is possible to execute the warrant at night. However, I think it is a little less likely to be executed at night. When I served as a prosecutor in the prosecution, there were cases where the suspects involved were forced to execute warrants during undercover investigations because they only moved at night in drug cases or cases where trafficking is the basis, but basically, safety is the most important thing when conducting forced investigations.

So at night, even with barbed wire or various lines of defense, you can destroy the exact cordon against these things at night and this can be difficult. Therefore, I think there is a small possibility that it will be at night. Because we're going to try it during the week, I think we're now having an overwhelming number of police officers, task forces, and various police forces in place than the current security personnel inside the residence.

[Anchor]
As you said, the police issued a general mobilization order for detectives in the metropolitan area as well as the head of the metropolitan area's regional investigation team. What kind of people are these people?

[Reporter]
The Criminal Task Force is an organization that does not only investigate and suppress cases of the local government, but also responds quickly to violent crimes across its jurisdiction. The Criminal Task Force is in charge of investigating wide-area cases and cases of great social interest. It is expected that more than 500 criminal activists in the Seoul metropolitan area will be mobilized.

In addition, if additional detectives in charge of drug and security investigations join, as I mentioned earlier, there will be more than a thousand people. However, as you said, the possibility of night execution actually seems low. Once people get hurt, there is a high possibility that responsibility will be raised. In fact, the police are also a national organization that requires consideration of the process, although the results are important. That's why it seems difficult to execute at night.

If you look at it, there are walls of cars and buses. In fact, there are situations in which we have to neutralize this barrier by calling all the vehicles and special vehicles that need to be taken out of these buses, but there are also barbed wire and circular barbed wire. In this case, putting manpower at night is highly likely to hurt people, so considering that, the possibility of night execution seems low.

[Anchor]
Now, the police have requested identification of 26 security officials at Hannam-dong's official residence on the 3rd at the time of the first warrant execution. I'm sure the security staff are under considerable pressure.

[Reporter]
I think so. There were the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd cordons. But in the first round, I opened it easily, and in the second round, I actually saw some physical collisions. But the police were all collecting evidence at that time. At that time, I was collecting all these things with cameras and recorders to see what kind of people were blocking the situation. With the information obtained from it, we are sending an official document to the security service to check whether it is correct or not. So, the police are expected to decide whether to work or not by comprehensively considering the degree of participation in illegal activities at the time and whether or not to commit illegal activities in the future.

Since there are a lot of evidence data, there are parts where you can additionally identify them depending on the reading results. That's why we have to look at additional situations. The sending of an official letter requesting identification for 26 people seems to be pre-pressing the security service while weighing the timing of the second arrest warrant. After pressing the security service in advance, the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are expected to determine the timing of the second execution.

[Anchor]
Now, an official from the National Security Agency said, "If the security service staff interferes with the execution of the warrant, even if it is ordered by a superior, they can be punished for obstructing the execution of special public affairs, and in that case, they will be deprived of their civil service positions and pensions." Will this have an impact?
How do you see it?

{이고}I think it will have a lot of influence. And as you said earlier, we are checking whether or not 26 people are identified, and this means that there is a high possibility of being booked as a suspect. However, as you said earlier, in the case of obstruction of the execution of special public affairs, it is often transferred to a trial and an old court.

In that case, a sentence of at least a suspended sentence is often sentenced. I said under pressure that if that happens, you will be disadvantaged by pensions and various things. However, what is clear is that the prosecution has the authority to suspend prosecution. So, in my judgment, it is likely that the four people, who can be considered the highest levels of the command, will be subject to strong dispositions, but the remaining 26 will be booked as suspects and later questioned by the police, putting psychological pressure on them to break the cordon.

After that, if this case goes to the prosecution after a police investigation, the prosecution disposes of the number of people through the old court to some extent, and suspends the prosecution to some extent. So if you are suspended from prosecution, you will not be prosecuted. Therefore, since there is no record of criminal punishment left, the scope of being booked as a suspect itself will be widened, and after that, when it reaches the prosecution stage, it will be possible to think of such a plan to give leniency to some personnel.

[Anchor]
Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit who attended the National Assembly yesterday, said, "Even if you are a member of the National Assembly, if you block the execution of an arrest warrant, you can arrest him as a red-handed offender." But lawmakers have the privilege of not arresting them, right?

{이고}Arrests are possible as a red-handed offender. Therefore, I think I was talking about it to put pressure on some members of the People's Power because they are blocking the execution of arrest warrants. In practice, I don't think this should happen, and we consider these things legally, so we don't want lawmakers to come forward when executing arrest warrants.

[Anchor]
Earlier, the police mentioned such an attempt to charge security officials with obstructing the execution of special public affairs through evidence, but President Yoon's lawyers also requested information to identify 150 prosecutors and police investigators who were executing the warrant. Is there anything that gets twisted when you file a complaint or file a complaint with each other?

{이고}Now, both sides are saying that it's illegal. On the part of President Yoon Suk Yeol, the meaning of identifying 150 people seems to mean that if 150 people are identified, that is, if information is disclosed, we will not be willing to file a complaint. However, if you are accused, you can become a defendant.

However, the police and the prosecution may not investigate the suspect for dismissal, but if it is clear that there is no charge without investigation, they may simply dismiss the formal disposition as dismissal. So there's a possibility that it'll end this quickly. However, anyway, President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers have requested information disclosure to identify 150 people, which means that there is a high possibility of additional charges against the person.

[Anchor]
Kim Yong-hyun's lawyers held a press conference today and said that the emergency martial law investigation is an act of rebellion.

[Reporter]
That's right. He stressed that the investigation into the rebellion is a practical rebellion led by political forces trying to remove President Yoon politically. The prosecution's indictment is just a wrong answer note that incorrectly stated that the subject of the civil war was President Yoon. It is also 83 pages of former Minister Kim's indictment. Among them, there is only one page of prosecution related to abuse of authority. This is the only part that the prosecution has the authority to investigate. That's how I emphasized it. At the same time, they claim that they are concealing the illegality of the entire investigation by forcibly inserting the facts of abuse of authority.

He then said that the president's appearance dozens of times in the prosecution's indictment means that there is no evidence of former Minister Kim's charges. He also protested that it was a shameful intention to announce the charges against the president and hold a public opinion trial under false accusations. However, former Minister Kim's lawyer and President Yoon's lawyer today also issued a statement. And former Chief of Security Park Jong-joon is also taking a stand.

So, it seems that President Yoon Suk Yeol is collectively engaged in a public opinion battle ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant. It feels like people who support President Yoon are gathering to send a message to prevent arrest. That's why some analysts say that President Yoon Suk Yeol was aiming for the maximum gathering of his supporters because this is a statement that happened at the same time today.

[Anchor]
According to what lawyers for former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun have revealed now, the president's dozens of appearances in the prosecution's indictment means there is no evidence of the charges against former Minister Kim Yong-hyun. This means that there is no evidence of former Minister Kim's allegations. How did you see this when you argued that this was a shameful intention to hold a public opinion trial?

{이고}Basically, the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is the most prominent in the crime of rebellion, so the prosecution has no choice but to make the most of the subjects about the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, who talked about the most important contents of the conspiracy or the story of the leader, which can be considered the main culprit when writing the indictment. Of course, I haven't seen the contents of the indictment in detail, but even if I look at the composition of the indictment, as a prosecutor, I also point out the contents of the main culprit the most when I write down the contents of my accomplices.

Under the conspiracy and instruction of the main culprit, it is written below how Ha-beom performed the act. So, I personally think that it would be a natural composition of the indictment. First of all, I think we should basically separate justice and politics while listening to various things about the press conference of former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun and the contents of the letter. In this case, a warrant has been issued, and the investigation has already begun, whether it is the police or the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and the judicial review has already begun.

But why do you interpret the trial stage, or the case ahead of the judiciary's judgment, politically, and when the trial hasn't even started properly yet, this is trying to remove someone politically? As a legal professional, I think that talking about this kind of story is trying to politicize the judiciary. In my opinion, even if the justice system asserts whether it is President Yoon Suk Yeol or Minister of National Defense Kim Yong-hyun, illegal investigators, and illegal collection evidence, I think the court can do various things, including not guilty pleas. So in a way, it was a press conference where I felt that politics and justice should be separated.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, hasn't it been belatedly confirmed that the National Human Rights Commission of Korea presented the agenda to the plenary committee that President Yoon should be guaranteed his right to defend himself? Please give me this news as well.

[Reporter]
First of all, if you look at this agenda, it was proposed by five non-standing members, including Kim Yong-won, Han Seok-hoon, Kim Jong-min, Lee Han-byeol, and Kang Jeong-hye. But Chairman Ahn Chang-ho made the payment. The agenda recommends that the head of the Constitutional Court thoroughly guarantee President Yoon's right to defend the impeachment trial. In addition, he advised the head of the Seoul Central District Court to strictly examine arrest and detention in martial law-related trials and to actively grant bail, to investigate without detention, not to overuse arrest warrants, and to withdraw the impeachment of Prime Minister Han Deok-soo. At the same time, it seems to be the position of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol.

As martial law is a unique authority granted to the president by the Constitution, he said that since the president has decided to declare martial law, detailed planning is not wrong or to be criticized. And he also said bitter things to the political world. The National Assembly has been abusing the impeachment motion without justifiable reasons by using the number of seats in the opposition party, which is rather a controversy of national constitution.

However, it is pointed out that there is a problem with the National Human Rights Commission's position on the side of President Yoon Suk Yeol. There are also criticisms from within the Human Rights Commission. The Human Rights Commission's labor union criticizes such actions as political tactics and schemes of the insurrectionists. Recommending the leaders of the rebellion to come into the realm of the rule of law in the Republic of Korea is the beginning of overcoming the real national crisis. In addition, civil society organizations are also voicing criticism one after another, although internal problems are also a problem.

[Anchor]
As you said, some civic groups and former human rights commissioners demanded that the agenda be scrapped and apologize for the responsibility for failing to prevent the current situation. How did you see these phenomena?

{이고}Basically, if you look at the nature of the National Human Rights Commission of Korea, what does it say in the nature of the committee on the website of the National Human Rights Commission of Korea? On the first page of the National Human Rights Commission's website, it is said that it is an independent organization that belongs to nowhere from the executive branch, the judiciary, and the legislature. As it is not the National Human Rights Commission of Korea that represents the position of one party, it is the point where the National Human Rights Commission of Korea should think about whether the National Human Rights Commission of Korea is hurting the independence of the National Human Rights Commission of Korea to take a position and present an agenda for guaranteeing the right to defend against each other at a time when the positions of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit continue to diverge throughout the talks.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, didn't the opposition party propose a special prosecution law to rebel again a day after the bill was abolished? In response to this, the public's propaganda and incitement of rebellion was added to the investigation target, and the general public who commented on the article could also be subject to investigation. What did you think of this part?

{이고}I actually think that's too much. I don't think it's going to be investigated. Because every citizen has freedom of expression under the constitution. Therefore, I think it is a little too much to make it the subject of any investigation or even the general public because virtually every individual citizen will have different opinions on the current situation. No matter what accusation is actually taken, I think the possibility of punishment is remarkably low.

[Anchor]
In addition, the addition of foreign exchange charges was also problematic, but if foreign exchange includes various defense drills against North Korean provocations, it is a problem in itself, and the perception that North Korea is viewed as a foreign country is also a big problem in theory. So, legally, North Korea is not a foreign country, what do you think of this?

{이고}In fact, I don't think it's right to talk about the foreign exchange crime. I think that talking about foreign exchange crimes by itself does not fit the current status quo and is difficult to establish a crime.

[Anchor]
Issue Plus, let's reduce it here. This has been Baek Jong-gyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs, and Lee Go-eun, a lawyer. Thank you both.