Kim Jong-hyuk "Lee Jun-seok's revelation is explosive.與Bulletin board thanks? "Chin Yoon's back of the head".

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 14, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Kim Jong-hyuk, Supreme Council Member for People's Power

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- Han Dong-hoon, I joined last December.Can't write on party bulletin board
- Anonymous bulletin board subject to party audit? No way.
- Why are Chin-yoon and Lee Jae-myung hitting the back of the head ahead of his sentence
- Lee Jun-seok's revelation, explosive..It's going to be quite controversial.
- Kim Hye-kyung is guilty of the first trial.Complete violation of the election law
- Lee Jae-myung's first trial, it will be difficult to come out with 800,000 won as expected
- Pollack again? I don't think there's much...Hit the strongest one first.
- Human renewal, I'm not in a position to judge.The extent to which the 尹 is suggested
- Disappointed Mrs. Kim will help public opinion on the decision not to accompany the trip
- The Democratic Party, which does not bring up impeachment, knows that it will face headwinds.

◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match, Part 1 will start with the best class. He's a member of the supreme council who really helps us. Kim Jong-hyuk, the supreme council member of the People's Power, is here. Please come in.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Hello. What can I do for you?

◆ Shin Yul: I'm so thankful that you came out. I'm not joking, I'm really thankful.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Yes, thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: Han Dong-hoon's family name was posted on the party's bulletin board. There are claims like this, but there are many violations of the party law, but there are some people who wonder if this is something that deserves very hot attention. Of course, someone will say something about revealing the truth, but how do you see it?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: In a way, I think I have to explain a little bit, but we have a party bulletin board in our party. There will be the Democratic Party, and now the party members write here. But if the members here want to write, they need to check as responsible members and authenticate them under their real names.

◆ Shin Yul: You mean people like me can't write, right?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: But it all goes up anonymously here. So it goes up like this. So I don't know who it is. But if you type search here, it goes into search, and for example, if you type Kim Jong-hyuk, all the posts that Kim Jong-hyuk has posted will be uploaded under his real name.

◆ Sin Yul: That's a very strange system.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's why you shouldn't do it like this. Because an outsider came into the anonymous bulletin board, of course, he was a party member, but when he searched, he couldn't say that people's real names came up. But someone hit Han Dong-hoon there. When I typed Han Dong-hoon, about 200 Han Dong-hoon's posts came up. Han Dong-hoon wrote something here. But it's a lot of people. But since they're the same name, one of them wrote a lot of things, and there was a sarcastic comment about what kind of dog collar was about the president, so at first, it came out like this that Han Dong-hoon criticized the president like this. But when I checked it, CEO Han Dong-hoon wrote at that time for a few years, and since CEO Han Dong-hoon joined the party in December last year and was the Minister of Justice before then, he cannot be a member of the party, he is not CEO Han Dong-hoon at all, and after that, CEO Han Dong-hoon is not registered here, so he can't write. So he's a person who has nothing to do with Han Dong-hoon. And the person who searched for this searched for Han Dong-hoon's father-in-law and his family name. So people just came up there again. The writing came up. But the articles are not about criticism or anything, but linking newspaper editorials or columns. So, after that, suddenly, Han Dong-hoon wrote this kind of slander against the president, and his family also wrote slanderous words. He started attacking them all at once like this. But it has nothing to do with the facts at all. First of all, CEO Han Dong-hoon is a person who hasn't even registered, and his family's name is listed on it, and these people's writings can't be called slander at all, and for example, Professor Shin is not a member of the party, but if I were you, if you hit Kim Jong-hyuk, it could probably pop up again. For example, I don't know what it would be like if I were to take the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. In addition, CEO Kim Jae-won and Supreme Council member point out the problem. For example, if you type Kim Jae-won, you don't know what else will come up if you type Kim Jae-won yourself, the same name, or the family name. But I have no idea what's wrong with that. But for example, there are a lot of slanderous comments about President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee on the bulletin board of our party. There are a lot of slanderous comments about CEO Han Dong-hoon, and even Kim Jae-won is the best member of the Supreme Council. There are a lot of slanderous comments about me.

◆ Sin-ryul: What that is is is that the more conflicts there are, the more both sides of the story.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's right. Then is that a problem if our party members post anonymously criticizing someone on it? Is that subject to a party audit? Or should anyone who posted something like that only about the president get a party audit? It doesn't make sense. That's

◆ Shin Yul: When I look at the materials selected by our writer for reference, Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member, said, "Of course, it is possible to audit the party." It will check the overall operation of the party bulletin board and allow ordinary party members to be expelled from the competent municipal and provincial ethics committee.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: So if you look at it now, what's really unique is that we don't know, we type Han Dong-hoon in the search function that we don't know, and then type all the names of the family members that I don't know, so I'm really curious about who took it out. I didn't know there was such a thing. But the party said this was a violation of the Personal Information Act, so we worked on it for about 6 hours and closed it. Because if you keep opening it, it'll become a problem.

◆ Shin Yul: But they captured it all.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I'm sure he captured it. Of course, if you do a party audit, I think it will be possible to do a party audit as to why you let these functions work as they are.

◆ Sin-ryul: But in the end, it's said that the close pro-Yoon conflict has subsided a little, but this seems to give the impression that it's hard to calm down the conflict, what do you think?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I'm not really weird either, but why is the party pouring out all its energy ahead of Chairman Lee Jae-myung's sentence? But all of a sudden, I thought, "Why do I have to hit the back of my head like this?" I'm not raising a suspicion that your family wrote something or anything when we have to attack together. It doesn't matter if the family wrote it, because it's not a severe criticism or anything, but it's a link to an editorial in Cho Joong-dong. What's wrong with that, and there are so many swear words on the bulletin board of the party, and it doesn't make sense that you should only take issue with what you pointed out about the president. The police said that this is an insult, so Han Dong-hoon is the same person, not the current representative. You accused the police of insulting him. The police will investigate. Then you'll find out who that person is and you'll go through that process. But honestly, I don't know if it's subject to punishment. Because other than him, criticizing that level is full of on the bulletin board of this party, but I don't understand what this is because I keep taking issue with it. I don't know what's wrong with you.

◆ Sin-ryul: Well, this is a bit of a different story. Didn't lawmaker Lee Joon-seok say today that President Yoon mentioned or recommended certain candidates for local elections in June 2022 in the past? What do you think?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's what he said. But I think this could be quite controversial. So, lawmaker Lee Joon-seok, so the former representative is now a lawmaker. Rep. Lee Joon-seok's argument is that the president called me and said, "Who's wrong? Who's wrong?" So, you were the party leader at the time, but that's enough to make the suspicion that the president was trying to intervene unfairly in the nomination. But I'm curious that no matter how much you are the party leader, you don't have to be directly involved in the nomination. It's a stamp. Then there must have been a missionary chairman at that time. Then I got it when the president told me, "What about him?" It's not good to do this person. Then, if I told the president whether I had delivered this to the head of the mission and said, "Why don't you do this?" and said, "Why don't you do this?" This would be a complete intervention in the nomination process. But if I received it, but I didn't deliver it at all. What happens if that happens?

◆ Sin-ryul: So depending on the interpretation, it's too much

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Yes, the situation has become so complicated that the part that Representative Lee Joon-seok is arguing now is this explosive, but I don't know how far the explosive will go. It's been revealed that he sent a text message about Myung Taekyun. So, before talking to the president on the phone on May 9th, he texted me at 0:20 a.m. and it was after 12 a.m. that the president said he wanted to run a primary. But it's not strange to me. Why are they so close that they texted him at dawn?

◆ Shin Yul: I don't know that, but I thought that. I just thought that politicians stay up very late and text each other.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's strange, and why were you so close that you called Kim Young-sun at dawn that you paid so much attention to him after sending him after 12 o'clock? Because the next time we meet at Chilbulsa Temple, four people, Myung Tae-kyun, Kim Young-sun, Lee Jun-seok, and Cheon Ha-ram, meet at dawn two years later. It's very unusual that we were that close. Then, I contacted him and he said, "Myeong Tae Kyun talked to the president and then the president decided to give Lee Joon-seok a nomination." They say definitively that they decided to give strategic nominations. But if you look at what we heard, I told Kim Young-sun to do it, but the party said a lot of things, so I said very reservedly, but after receiving it, I told Lee Joon-seok, then-chairman, that the president should give it to him. So, this process is actually very ambiguous, so I think there are a lot of things that need to be clarified by Lee Joon-seok.

◆ Shin Yul: I think it's important for Lee Joon-seok's remarks today among the many news that can't help but pay attention to, so since he brought it up, it's important for him to say it clearly. Kim Hye-kyung was convicted in the end of the first trial regarding the violation of the Public Official Election Act. Since it's 1.5 million won, how do you think about it?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: No, it's a dead letter. But as you know, this came out while investigating the company card. For example, I bought a lot of things like beef, sushi, and fruit for ancestral rites with the company card, but after researching among them, there was a story about eating with someone, and I ate with the congressmen during the campaign. But I paid with 104,000 won or something. This is a complete violation of the election law. I've been in the election, but when the election begins, no one can buy anyone a meal. That's right. Then it'll become a big problem later on.

◆ Is it okay to get it?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I can eat it, but I can't give it to you. Because when you go into an election, the chairman of the party's cooperation committee or the lawmakers can't officiate, pay congratulatory money, and pay extra money.

◆ Sin-ryul: People in your district shouldn't even send a wreath. But you can send acquaintances from other regions, right?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It doesn't matter to a person who doesn't care. But at least not for voters or people like that. But Kim Hye-kyung called the lawmakers after eating, and ate during the election, and the secretary paid for it. But this person's explanation means that I didn't know. But this doesn't make sense. How can you eat with the lawmakers and you don't know who paid for it? Then if the secretary has paid for it, what happened to the money? Wouldn't you just get it from the secretary every day like this? Isn't it natural that the secretary pays the bill with what money? But to say that I didn't know anything is so embarrassing, so it might sound strange in the latter part, but I'm sorry anyway. I'm saying that I didn't know, so I don't really understand that. As a result, the judge also fined him for the crime, asking why he was passing his fault on the secretary.

◆ Shin Yul: But tomorrow, there's something about CEO Lee Jae-myung. However, if you look at representative Lee Jae-myung's decision by scenario, even if he is found not guilty, he will strengthen his foreign offensive by putting his wings on it. Especially when the conviction comes out, what is it? It is said that if the deprivation of the right to vote comes out, the rental struggle will be strengthened after a stronger rental struggle. Are you getting ready?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I'm ready, but I think we'll respond to it by watching it come out, but as Professor Shin said, we'll go with it. So the prediction is that it will not be easy to come out like 800,000 won. Whether it's guilty or not guilty, because there are various reasons why this person is reflecting on himself or not to come out to about 800,000 won right now, but CEO Lee Jae-myung is denying everything, and there is no reason to reduce it next. So, if I go back to the original way, it would be more than 2 million won, and if I decided that I should acquit him, I would just go to innocence. There were predictions that I wouldn't go in a vague way. So I think we have to wait and see.

◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, in the future, the rental offensive has to be strengthened in this way and that way, and Myung Tae-kyun said this. The sixth wave will come out of the court tomorrow. I don't know what this means because his remarks are very poetic.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Tomorrow, no, it's today. So, I'm probably doing that right now. We're conducting a substantive review of the warrant. So I'm going to do a warrant review in front of a judge today, so he's saying he's going to reveal something or set it off in front of that judge. Isn't that why you're calculating everything you've done so far? This was the first one and the second one. As you said before,

◆ Shin Yul: The first wave is News Tomato, the second wave is Kang Hye-kyung, the third wave is the parliamentary audit, the fourth wave is the prosecution's investigation, the fifth wave is the president's voice, and the sixth wave is tomorrow.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: He seems to be making his own judgments by doing his own calculations, but I heard that Myung Tae-kyun contacted the people around him and told them that he would be arrested. Then, he said that he would be arrested calmly, and that it's because everyone is here, but Kang Hye-kyung also said that she wouldn't be safe. As you said today, I think we'll have to wait and see what bombshells we'll announce and what we'll throw.

◆ Sin-ryul: But this guy might fall into this wave and die. Whether to cross the wave or die under the wave, make a bigger wave. Papillon's 7th wave. But this is an article that came out exclusively, which is a suggestion that this person intends to reveal something more. How do you see this part?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I don't think there will be much. If you look at the past experience, there's usually something. I've rarely seen people who were talking before entering the prosecution, enter the prosecution or reveal new facts in the warrant review. Professor Shin, do you remember anything?

◆ Shin Yul: I don't have one. But since you were an important editor-in-chief, what I'm curious about in the media is that when you pop something in the media, you don't pop the strongest thing at first. Let's pop it in the middle and go out stronger, right?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's not true. For example, let's pop the biggest one first. It's because if you pop it from the middle part like this, it might all go out and report it from somewhere else first. We can't guarantee that we have everything perfectly. So, in most cases, if you look at it, you don't know what the other side will pop and leave, but you have this and save it without this medicine elsewhere. If you use it somewhere else first, it's nothing, so most of the time, you hit the strongest first.

◆ Shin Yul: And one more thing is that the president is going abroad, but Kim Gun-hee is not accompanying him anyway. And now, they say they will renovate their personnel, but aren't their close friends, including CEO Han Dong-hoon, going to watch? I'm going to see how fast I'm going to go, but there must be a standard. This is not acceptable. For example, if a personnel reshuffle comes out as a revolving door or a revolving door, isn't it hard to accept that?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: But I don't think we're in a position to accept and not accept it anymore. We're making a request to the president now, but we're not the decision maker. So I'm suggesting to the president that this kind of controversy and this kind of problem, that we need this kind of reform because the party and the president's support are falling like this. But at first, it was like a cliff to see how the proposal would be accepted. It didn't seem to work at all, but in fact, I kept asking them to be treated with contempt and to have a private meeting, but they didn't do it, and then we met, and they were completely disgraced. Nevertheless, we kept insisting that we should go to the public's eye level. As it is combined with public opinion, isn't the Yongsan presidential office changing now? It's changing, so we're watching, so we can't say, "It's a certain line, it's a certain standard," but I hope that we'll start our second term in office with the idea of starting a new one so that we don't talk about such things as revolving door greetings. If possible, I'd like to invite a lot of talented people so that they don't talk about pro-Yoon or revolving door greetings anymore.

◆ Shin Yul: As you just said, it's true that the president's right to personnel affairs is the president's own right. But that authority was given to the president by the people. If so, wouldn't it be hard to establish the logic of saying, "I'm doing this because it's my authority?"

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: It doesn't make sense to do what I want. In a way, it could be an abuse of some kind of power. And then, for example, a judge can't say, "I'm a judge, so I'll do what I want to do." That's right. You have to do it according to your conscience according to the law, and then the president is also a delegated authority from the people, so you have to set up standards for conscience and style as a politician.

◆ Shin Yul: How can I help calm public opinion if I didn't go on a trip with President Kim Gun-hee? How do you see it?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I think it's helpful. I'm embarrassed to say it now, whether it's right or wrong, but Mrs. Kim Gun-hee has become a public hate. So, first of all, I think that doing so will help calm the people's feelings.

◆ Shin Yul: I heard that 41 people from the five opposition parties have launched a coalition of impeachment members of the Yoon Suk Yeol, what do you think?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I feel like it's just for taking it out. In particular, in the case of Cho Kuk, the leader of the Innovation Party, isn't the arrest almost obvious because he is now facing a Supreme Court ruling and has been sentenced to two years in prison? So, when you see him talk, there are so many personal feelings and things like that that. So many people get together and there are various political interests. There may be, but well, the Korean people saw the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye last time. What did the president of Moon Jae In say then? All the people who oppose me are also considered my people and I will achieve this unity.

◆ Sin Yul: I remember that. He said he would have unlimited discussions in Gwanghwamun if he objected to me like this.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I think he said he would go to the market and drink makgeolli, and then the beginning will be equal, the opportunity will be equal, the process will be fair, and the result will be just. You said such a wonderful thing, but it's really cool. Unfortunately, how did President Moon Jae In comfort the Korean people after impeaching President Park Geun Hye and appearing? You created a committee to clean up deep-rooted evils and hit people all over the place. So two presidents, a former chief justice, and then a lot of people from the military, many of whom were killed. There were unfortunate incidents of suicide, so in the eyes of the Korean people, was the administration that emerged after impeachment that was that better than the previous administration? So if it went well, would you have taken away your power now? President Moon Jae In, who impeached President Park Geun Hye by impeachment, eventually collapsed without creating the next president. It's about knowing how the people view the regime. Then, while saying that he will impeach President Yoon Suk Yeol, Chairman Lee Jae-myung is also talking about the opposition parties around him. I'm sure our people will know. They're just saying that to take their power, but just because they're in power, it doesn't mean that the Republic of Korea suddenly becomes a paradise or an ideal country, but because they know that more conflicts and problems can arise, they're not enough to stop the constitutional order last time, so you're going to break it again? I don't think the public would think that this is the right thing.

◆ Shin Yul: But the Democratic Party itself has not yet brought up impeachment at the party level.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: That's right. That's because they know it. And I don't have anything to say. You impeached and took power, and you took it right away. I can't recreate it and I know how the people feel about it. I'll put it there and impeach it again. So if you put it that way, it's this. If the Democratic Party takes power, it's like guaranteeing a five-year term as president and then impeaching the people or shortening the term by two years and a year if the Conservative Party takes power. So this is not democracy. This is not a proper country. So there can be some headwinds. I think it's going to blow a lot. And impeachment should be judged by the Constitutional Court anyway, so would the Constitutional Court admit it?

◆ Shin Yul: But I'm scared like this because I'm so scared when I keep thinking about it, whether it's because I'm scared or not. Let's stop here today.

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: Until now, I was the Supreme Council member Kim Jong Hyuk.